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Welcome to the Chat room! Place used to discuss any and all aspects of Lingua Libre: the project itself, discussions of the operations, policy and proposals, technical issues, etc. Other forums include for code-oriented issues, . Feel free to participate in any language you want to.

 
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== Datasets out of date ==
 
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Hello. It seems that the datasets page, although it claims to run every 2 days, is completely out of date: all the available zips are from April 2020 or November 2019 (and the full zip from May 2019). Is this a known problem? Is there a plan to address it? [[User:Julien Baley|Julien Baley]] ([[User talk:Julien Baley|talk]]) 23:17, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 
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:Indeed, it seems to have an issue with the dataset updating. I opened a [[phab:T261519|Phabricator ticket]] about this issue. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 18:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 
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== Publish on Wikimedia Commons ==
 
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Hello, I just tested, but my records are not published on Commons. My tests: on Firefox, then on Chrome, with 50, then with 1 expression (s), with license CC3.0-BY-SA and CC1.0. —[[User:Eihel|Eihel]] ([[User talk:Eihel|talk]]) 06:51, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[[File:LiLi April 2021 - Publish on Wikimedia Commons.png|thumb|Problème de publication sur Wikimedia Commons]]
 
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:[[phab:T281636]] —[[User:Eihel|Eihel]] ([[User talk:Eihel|talk]]) 07:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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:: Usually I have the same with the first two recordings in a session. Then I can upload them again at the end. Try again with more recordings, and using "retry filed upload" button. [[User:Poemat|Poemat]] ([[User talk:Poemat|talk]]) 08:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::: Yup, I had this bug many times. (I say "had" because I don't remember having encountered it after the fire incident.) Just don't give up and it should be published eventually. [[User:DSwissK|DSwissK]] ([[User talk:DSwissK|talk]]) 11:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::(As of 3 May 2021 and as I checked, I'm not aware of any code changes ([https://github.com/lingua-libre/RecordWizard/commits/master history]) which may have of affected this. Seb35 made some other code change this same day.) [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 09:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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I add a user who has the same problem: {{u|Le Commissaire}}. —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 15:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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:::::Bonjour {{ping|Seb35}}, Faudrait voir avec {{u|Le Commissaire}} si le problème persiste aussi (avant de clore le ticket Phab. Sincères salutations. —[[User:Eihel|Eihel]] ([[User talk:Eihel|talk]]) 10:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::::J’ai mis un message à Le Commissaire sur sa page de discussion.
 
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::::::Le problème que vous avez eu était spécifique à votre compte, c’est peut-être arrivé à d’autres personnes mais ça semble assez rare. Aussi, à partir du moment où un utilisateur a réussi à faire un envoi vers Commons, alors c’est un problème différent du vôtre ([[:phabricator:T275957|celui-ci, qui ressemble mais l’erreur est intermittente]]). Plus globalement, il faudrait que le message d’erreur soit explicite plutôt que d’aller à chercher dans la console du navigateur, je vais ouvrir un ticket Phabricator en ce sens. [[User:Seb35|Seb35]] ([[User talk:Seb35|talk]]) 10:28, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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== Translation admins ==
 
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{{done}} — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 14:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 
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I updated [[phab:T262855|this ticket]], explaining our need of translation admins. I'm espacially thinking of {{u|Sabelöga}} and {{u|Eihel}}, who have the skills and the needs to get this rights (e.g. [[Special:Diff/484898|here]]).<br/>
 
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If the community agrees, we can ask the developper team currently working on the project to implement this new status into Lingua Libre, and we will then be able to elect new translation admins on LiLi.
 
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You can vote by using <code><nowiki>{{Support}} or {{Oppose}}</nowiki></code>.
 
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<br/>All the best, — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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:Hello [[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]], Especially since the tvar translation variables have just changed. —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 16:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::'''UPDATE''': Translation admins should now "exist" on Lingua Libre. See [[phab:T262855|[T262855] Implement new user rights]]. --[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 19:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 
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=== Vote ===
 
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* {{Support}} (proposer) — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]]
 
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* {{Support}} We are are early stage for the communnity, having ''3 active referents for any given administrative task is required'' (see also [[:en:Bus factor]]). It is also necessary to document process as we see them appears, in a concise therefore maintainable way. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 15:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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*:In this project, the rights associated (example: ''pagetranslation'') with translation administrators are already contained in the administrators. In addition, an administrator can self-grant the right without going through a formal request (on any WM). I therefore think that we are far from the indispensable (wo)man (especially after Strasbourg IMHO). Also, if I want to continue on this project and following the previous section… —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 16:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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*::{{ping|Eihel-LiLi}} "Active" [and skilled] is an important word. I'm admin but not active on translations pages. We have about 4 admins truly active this past 6 months, AFAIK only WikiLucas was admin while truly active [and skilled] on pagetranslation. Adding 2+ more is required. Seems on the way. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 09:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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*:::And Pamputt too (already TA on WD for example). Cordially. —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 15:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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* {{Support}} Agree to ask for this new status. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 15:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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* {{Support}} Agreed. [[User:DSwissK|DSwissK]] ([[User talk:DSwissK|talk]]) 18:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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* {{Weak support}} —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 15:49, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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* {{Support}} J’ai confiance. [[User:Lyokoï|Lyokoï]] ([[User talk:Lyokoï|talk]]) 17:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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* {{Support}} I'm up for it! --[[User:Sabelöga|Sabelöga]] ([[User talk:Sabelöga|talk]]) 18:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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=== Discussion ===
 
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* I'd rather see [[User:Titodutta|Titodutta]]. —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 01:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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:{{ping|Eihel-LiLi}} {{u|Titodutta}} is already an admin on LiLi, which means he has the <code>pagetranslation</code> right. Implementing this ''translation admin'' status would allow us to grant some users the <code>pagetranslation</code> right without granting them all admin rights (like the right to <code>delete</code> pages or <code>block</code> users for instance). — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 07:31, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::Ah OK. I took the most prolific users, but I remembered that [[User:WikiLucas00|you]] and Pamputt are TAs… —[[User:Eihel-LiLi|Eihel-LiLi]] ([[User talk:Eihel-LiLi|talk]]) 15:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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== Browsing the sound library ==
 
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{{u|Nicolas NALLET}} is currently working on the page that will display the recordings of Lingua Libre, and would like to know the list of filters that we would like to use on this page (e.g. by language, by speaker, by date...)
 
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Feel free to suggest other filters or give your opinion on suggested filters 🙂 — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:58, 20 May 2021 (UTC)<br/><small>(pinging {{ping|Yug|Pamputt|Titodutta}} — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 15:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC))</small>
 
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:Great news!
 
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:The most obvious ones are, I guess, the following:
 
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:* by language
 
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:* by speaker
 
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:* by speaker's language proficiency (beginner, etc.)
 
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:* by genre (male, female, etc.)
 
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:--[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 13:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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*Hello {{u|WikiLucas00}} and {{u|Poslovitch}}
 
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**by cat (<code>deepcat</code>, <code>incategory</code>)
 
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**by coord (<code>nearcoord</code>, <code>boost-nearcoord</code>)
 
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**by link (<code>linksto</code>)
 
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:The codes in parentheses are those of '''''CirrusSearch''''', an extension that can be added to LiLi. Poslovitch's proposals also have filters contained in '''''WikibaseCirrusSearch''''' (<code>haswbstatement</code>). Tell me what you think of this. Cordially. —[[User:Eihel|Eihel]] ([[User talk:Eihel|talk]]) 20:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::{{ping|Eihel}} could you describe a bit how do you imagine this would work? (since the recordings on Lingua Libre don't have ''cat'' or ''coord'' at all, and could have ''link'' but I couldn't find any examples, I'm a bit confused and would like to know more). Same question for CirrusSearch, we could look into it to see if it can be installed, but what use do you see for it? (the only use I know is for ''WikibaseCirrusSearch''). Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 14:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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:::Code on github please. You may check Forvo and Codepen to find elegant html5 audio element and css. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 22:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::Hello {{ping|VIGNERON}}, The WikibaseCirrusSearch extension requires the installation of the CirrusSearch extension. This means that it does not change much. It is true that my proposals are not very Catholic, but this project will evolve over time. To begin with, this page contains a cat (not all LiLi TPs contain a cat, this should be corrected). However, since you want an example, [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?sort=last_edit_desc&search=all%3A+insource%3A%2F%5C%5B%5C%5BUser%5C%3AVIGNERON%5C%7CVIGNERON%5C%5D%5C%5D%5C+%5C%28%5C%5B%5C%5BUser%5C+talk%5C%3AVIGNERON%2F++insource%3A%2F%5C%5B%5C%5BUser%5C%3AEihel%5C%7CEihel%5C%5D%5C%5D%5C+%5C%28%5C%5B%5C%5BUser%5C+talk%5C%3AEihel%2F&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns120=1&ns146=1 here is one] (the TPs where we both participated with ''insource''). Best regards. —[[User:Eihel|Eihel]] ([[User talk:Eihel|talk]]) 09:54, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::For example, the lists - which are the way to correctly make a significant number of records - were already numerous before Strasbourg. Now only one language letter appears (a). A search on its history for its own lists is possible knowing how they were recorded. But for example, if I want the lists in French in a search, "List:Fra" is not sufficient, because we only get a part. In the future, categories should be created for lists: by user, by language, by set (from the same record session) and by subject (fruit, animals, etc.). Otherwise it will quickly be insurmountable from a moment. Cordially. —[[User:Eihel|Eihel]] ([[User talk:Eihel|talk]]) 14:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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== Plans for the next armageddon? ==
 
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Are there any contingency plans implemented after the Big Fire? A regular backup for example? [[User:Poemat|Poemat]] ([[User talk:Poemat|talk]]) 22:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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:{{ping|Poemat}} good question, thanks for asking. There is obviously some plans. I'll let {{ping|Seb35|Nicolas NALLET|Michael Barbereau WMFr}} complete and/or correct me but right now, there is daily backups on a server in an other datacenter. Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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== Request for Mon language Code= mnw ==
 
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{{done}}<br/>
 
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Do not have Mon language for this [[File:LL-Q9217 (tha)-咽頭べさ-Mon people.wav]] so I added Thai language I would like to have this problem resolved thanks. <small>message posted by</small> [[User:咽頭べさ]] ([[User talk:咽頭べさ|talk]])
 
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:Hello again {{ping|咽頭べさ}} thank you for pointing out that Mon language was missing on Lingua Libre! I added it, you should from now on be able to record words in this language 🙂 Please read the message I posted on your talk page before recording new words.
 
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:All the best, — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 16:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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== Celebrating the coming 500k milestone ==
 
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Hello {{ping|DenisdeShawi|DSwissK|Eihel-LiLi|Julien Baley|KlaudiuMihaila|Lepticed7|Lyokoï|Olaf|Pamputt|Poemat|Poslovitch|Sabelöga|Theklan|Titodutta|Yug|सुबोध कुलकर्णी}}
 
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As you may have seen, we recorded 30,000 pronunciations during the current month (2nd most active month ever), the very first full calendar month since the rebirth of the website, after the datacenter fire that stalled the project for 6 weeks. If we keep a similar pace, we should reach in June the important milestone of 500,000 recordings made on Lingua Libre. That is incredible.
 
  
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I wanted to ask you all, '''how do you want to celebrate this milestone?''' Feel free to suggest anything below, and let's try to celebrate it properly 🙂
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== Is the Record Wizard not working for anyone else? ==
  
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All the best<br>— '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 14:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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My mic works with [https://mictests.com/ mictests.com], but [https://lingualibre.org/wiki/Special:RecordWizard the RecordWizard] doesn't pick anything up at the "check your microphone" stage. I've tried on both my phone and my laptop, and I can record sound in both cases, and I have the appropriate permissions enabled, but this particular website isn't detecting sounds. Is anyone else having this kind of problem? [[User:Grendelkhan|Grendelkhan]] ([[User talk:Grendelkhan|talk]]) 23:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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: Hi there, I remember registering numbers up to 1399 in French ([[c:File:LL-Q150 (fra)-Poslovitch-1399.wav]]). I abide to get that number up to 4242 once we reach that milestone ! --[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 18:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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:Hello [[User:Grendelkhan]],
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:I just received a second such report. User also checked [https://mictests.com/ mictests.com] sucessfully.
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::: We gather and make an apéro. [[User:Lepticed7|Lepticed7]] ([[User talk:Lepticed7|talk]]) 16:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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:On Firefox, Lingua Libre recording studio step 4, the microphone is allowed (we see the red microphone image on the left of the URL address). But after clicking the record button, no recording occurs.
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:::: Maybe an online event is the simple to do actualy. What did you think about a Live on Twitch with some guests about Lingua Libre, its history, how people made some very big recording session, how its help describe language, etc… ? [[User:Lyokoï|Lyokoï]] ([[User talk:Lyokoï|talk]]) 10:22, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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:* Mictests on other site : successful.
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:::: It's possible to have some budget for celebrating :)[[User:Xenophôn|Xenophôn]]([[User talk:Xenophôn|talk]]) 08:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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:*Device: Notebook
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:*User: [[User:Akamycoco]].
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:*Languages affected: all.
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:*Dates : Worked on February 28. Stopped working on February 29.
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:Let's starts an investigation. Could you let me know your OS and precise web browser version ? (Help > About Chrome or similar)
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:Let me know as well if you have basic developer skills to Right-click on the staled page > Inspect > Console : are there any error message ? [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 07:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
  
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== Failed to upload on Wiki Commons ==
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::My laptop is using Google Chrome <tt>122.0.6261.94 (Official Build) (64-bit)</tt> on Linux (Debian Testing). No error messages in the console when I attempt the recording. My phone is using Chrome <tt>122.0.6261.90</tt> on Android 14 on a Pixel 5a. It ''does'' seem to work on Firefox <tt>115.7.0esr (64-bit)</tt> on my laptop. (I really should have checked that before.) So maybe this is solely a Chrome problem? [[User:Grendelkhan|Grendelkhan]] ([[User talk:Grendelkhan|talk]]) 16:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  
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Hi, I am an editor from Central Bikol Wiktionary. I have tried to record words and it went through. But it has failed to be uploaded on commons. I think it's the second time to happen. This was only after the Lingua Libre has came back. My internet connection is stable so I guess there might be some internal problems. I hope not. [[User:Kunokuno|Kunokuno]] ([[User talk:Kunokuno|talk]]) 14:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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:Hello {{ping|Kunokuno}} I'm truly sorry that this problem occurred, thanks for warning us about it.
 
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:Could you please tell us your current setup (device, browser, microphone)? How many words did you record? Could you try to reproduce the bug with 10 words, and then look at your browser's console (instructions [https://kb.mailster.co/how-can-i-open-the-browsers-console/ here]) to tell us the error message if there is one?
 
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:All the best. — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 16:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 
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::Hello {{ping|Kunokuno}},
 
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::Did you retried and do you stil have the same problem? (there has been some fixes recently, it shouldn't happen anymore but I want to make sure everything is correct right now).
 
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::Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 08:41, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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[[File:Lingua libre error.png|thumb|Lingua libre error]]
 
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:::Hello everyone, sorry for the late response. My records are still not getting through to commons. The record was successful, but it cannot be upload on commons. My device is a intel core i5 laptop, browser is google chrome, and I'm using a headset with a built in microphone. I have also tried recording on my phone but it has the same error. I have tried doing the screenshot for the error message, if there's any. Please check here. Sorry, I am not quite knowledgeable on the codes and programming languages. [[User:Kunokuno|Kunokuno]] ([[User talk:Kunokuno|talk]]) 13:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::I deleted [[User:Kunokuno|Kunokuno]]’s OAuth token, so it should work after the next log in (see also the [[User talk:Kunokuno#Can't upload recordings to Wiki Commons|talk page]]). ~ [[User:Seb35|Seb35]] [[User talk:Seb35|<small>[^_^]</small>]] 10:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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== 500000! ==
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So far as I can tell, this isn't documented: if, for user Foo, category <tt>Lingua Libre pronunciation by Foo</tt> exists on Commons, then all uploads will be categorized into that category. This is helpful! It's also easy to backfill after the fact using [[:commons:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot]]. I'm not sure where to document this, but it seems reasonable to do so ''somewhere''. [[User:Grendelkhan|Grendelkhan]] ([[User talk:Grendelkhan|talk]]) 16:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Lili reached 500 000 recordings. Congratulations to everybody! [[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 12:56, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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: Congrat dear all speakers! It’s unbelievable! \o/ [[User:Lyokoï|Lyokoï]] ([[User talk:Lyokoï|talk]]) 23:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::Indeed, congratulations to all of you, let us go to the million o_O. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 16:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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== Understanding lingua-libre ==
  
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Hi everyone! I made a short video tutorial for Lingua Libre, in French. If you like it, I could create one in English and we could include it in the {{templ|Welcome}} template, to help newcomers.<br/>Here is the video, please tell me your thoughts about it! <small>also available [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqiJa5QOuM here on YouTube]</small>
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Hi, I am creating this discussion to understand lingua-libre better
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[[File:Tutoriel Lingua Libre.webm|thumb|left|Lingua Libre tutorial in French]]{{clr}}
 
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All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 10:04, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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:I really like it. It is not too long, very clear, etc. So I think it would be a good idea to create one in English. Few remarks:
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:''TLDR: Large amount of users reporting failure to upload at step 5 : [[User:Grendelkhan|Grendelkhan]], [[User:Culex|Culex]], [[User:XANA000|XANA000]], [[User:Ardzun|Ardzun]] (Indonesian languages), [[User:Penn Zero MSSJ|Penn Zero MSSJ]], [[User:Univòc64]] (Whistled Occitan) and [[User:Akamycoco]] (Taiwanese languages). This likely only tip of iceberg. Only few users were able to [https://lingualibre.org/index.php?hidebots=1&translations=filter&hidepageedits=1&hideWikibase=1&hidelog=1&namespace=0&limit=1000&days=14&enhanced=1&title=Special:RecentChanges&urlversion=2 record in May], with atypically low number of recordings. Indonesia workshop with ~15 participants critically affected. Investigation ongoing. [[User:Hugo en résidence|Hugo en résidence]] ([[User talk:Hugo en résidence|talk]]) 14:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)''
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:* on Wikimedia Commons, I think you should write what music is used in the video and where does it come from in order to be sure it is a free-licence music
 
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:Very nice job. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 18:56, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::Thank you {{ping|Pamputt}}) ! I think I will indeed make a video with the interface in English, with no built-in subtitles as you suggested, and we will then be able to add TimedText subtitles on Commons. I think I'll also make a version with built-in substitles (so basically the same video as here but with everything in English), in order to have a cleaner English version to be post and share on YouTube.
 
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::EDIT: I added English subtitles on the French video, to test the functionality, it seems to work well!
 
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::Thank you for your remark about the music, I added the information on the file's description.
 
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::See you! 🙂 — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 10:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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I can record words, but uploading them to Commons fails. The JavaScript console has the following message:
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{{done}} (discussion in progress on the [[LL:Technical board]]) — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 15:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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Hi, I am back after a long hiatus! :) I wanted to ask about auto-inserting recorded words to Wiktionary. Is it possible to automatically insert recorded files into the respective Wiktionary entries if I had imported those words from a specific Wiktionary category? For instance, I did a test batch today from [[:wikt:or:ଶ୍ରେଣୀ:ବାଲେଶ୍ୱରୀ_ଶବ୍ଦ|"ଶ୍ରେଣୀ:ବାଲେଶ୍ୱରୀ_ଶବ୍ଦ"]] from the Odia Wiktionary. The uploaded words do appear on Commons but I need to manually add each recording. Is there a way to automate that?
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: <tt>'''Your IP address is in a range that has been [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global blocks|blocked on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis]].''' The block was made by [[User:EPIC|‪EPIC‬]]. The reason given is ''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/NOP|Open proxy/Webhost]]: See the [[m:WM:OP/H|help page]] if you are affected''. * Start of block: 10:09, 1 May 2024 * Expiry of block: 10:09, 1 May 2027 Your current IP address is 2001:41d0:304:100::4790. The blocked range is ‪2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/33‬. Please include all above details in any queries you make. If you believe you were blocked by mistake, you can find additional information and instructions in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/No open proxies|No open proxies]] global policy. Otherwise, to discuss the block please [[m:Steward requests/Global|post a request for review on Meta-Wiki]]. You could also send an email to the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Stewards|stewards]] [[m:Special:MyLanguage/VRT|VRT]] queue at "stewards@wikimedia.org" including all above details.`, blockinfo: {…}, "*": "See https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at &lt;https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/mediawiki-api-announce.lists.wikimedia.org/&gt; for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes."
  
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My second question is something that I had asked long back - is there a way to change (or choose from two options) the filename. For instance, I would like to use the Commmons convention of "TWO_LETTER_ISO_CODE-WORDNAME.EXTENSION" format (e.g. "or-କଳା.wav"). If there is already a file that exists, then the new file can be "or-କଳା-01.wav". In that way, viewing the words in the Commons category would be easier meaning "or-କଳା.wav" and "or-କଳା-01.wav" will appear close to each other. One can even check which of the recordings is better to use on Wikimedia projects. In the backend you can of course connect the files to your Wikibase by providing unique IDs to each recording.
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This is not my IP address shown in the error message, and whatismyip confirms that I'm not behind a proxy. The Global block request [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global/2024-w18#Global_block_for_Special:Contributions/2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/33 is here]. Is this affecting anyone else? I lost a heap of recordings. [[User:Grendelkhan|Grendelkhan]] ([[User talk:Grendelkhan|talk]]) 22:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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:Uploads are failing for me today too, even though I am recording with my account. [[User:Culex|Culex]] ([[User talk:Culex|talk]]) 15:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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:: Idem--[[User:XANA000|XANA000]] ([[User talk:XANA000|talk]]) 16:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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::: I can record, but i couldn’t uploaded until today. I was able to upload once yesterday, but after that I couldn't upload any more. [[User:Ardzun|Ardzun]] ([[User talk:Ardzun|talk]]) 06:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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:I guess I'm not the only one who's been trying for weeks but could not publish audio after 1 May. Hope someone can fix it. [[User:Penn Zero MSSJ|Penn Zero MSSJ]] ([[User talk:Penn Zero MSSJ|talk]]) 20:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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::[[User:Univòc64]] (Whistled occitan) and [[User:Akamycoco]] (Taiwanese languages) also reported issues.
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::It seems time to add a sitenotice warning. [[User:Hugo en résidence|Hugo en résidence]] ([[User talk:Hugo en résidence|talk]]) 14:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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::In may we have mostly : 556 recordings by 7 users on May 1th, 174 recordings on May 11th ([[Special:Contributions/Austin Zhang|Austin Zhang]]), then nothing.
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::If we compare with [https://public-paws.wmcloud.org/User:Yug/QueryLingualibre-monthly.ipynb known monthly recordings], our average months recently was 30k audios, the lowest ones were 5k audios, May 2024 is heading toward 1200 audios or 5% of the average month and 20% of the lowest months. Something weird is going on indeed. 
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{| class=wikitable
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! Most prolific speakers for the current month || Months since 2022
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|-
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|
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<query _pagination="10" locutor="<translate><!--T:7--> Item (locutor Qid)</translate>" locutorLabel="<translate><!--T:8--> Speakers of the Month</translate>" nb="<translate><!--T:9--> Number of records</translate>">
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SELECT ?locutor ?locutorLabel ?nb WHERE {
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  {
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    SELECT ?locutor (COUNT(?record) as ?nb)
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    WHERE {
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        ?record prop:P2 entity:Q2 .        # Q2: record, P2: instance of.
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        ?record prop:P5 ?locutor .         # Property:P5: speaker
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        ?record prop:P6 ?date .
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      FILTER ( YEAR(?date) = YEAR(NOW()) && MONTH(?date) = MONTH(NOW()) )
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    }
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    GROUP BY ?locutor ?locutorLabel
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    ORDER BY DESC(?nb)
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    LIMIT 50
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  }
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  SERVICE wikibase:label {
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    bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en" .
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    ?locutor rdfs:label ?locutorLabel .
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  }
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}
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ORDER BY DESC(?nb)
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</query>
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|
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<pre>
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{ date:2022-01, records: 21290, speakers: 46, languages: 28 },
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{ date:2022-02, records: 3894, speakers: 40, languages: 17 },
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{ date:2022-03, records: 8357, speakers: 61, languages: 21 },
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{ date:2022-04, records: 5454, speakers: 34, languages: 18 },
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{ date:2022-05, records: 4702, speakers: 59, languages: 30 },
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{ date:2022-06, records: 7675, speakers: 41, languages: 18 },
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{ date:2022-07, records: 4364, speakers: 37, languages: 22 },
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{ date:2022-08, records: 9544, speakers: 45, languages: 23 },
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{ date:2022-09, records: 5802, speakers: 113, languages: 30 },
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{ date:2022-10, records: 6931, speakers: 74, languages: 32 },
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{ date:2022-11, records: 8461, speakers: 54, languages: 34 },
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{ date:2022-12, records: 11882, speakers: 54, languages: 23 },
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{ date:2023-01, records: 18150, speakers: 48, languages: 29 },
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{ date:2023-02, records: 32441, speakers: 65, languages: 29 },
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{ date:2023-03, records: 11527, speakers: 61, languages: 30 },
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{ date:2023-04, records: 8451, speakers: 58, languages: 35 },
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{ date:2023-05, records: 21282, speakers: 97, languages: 49 },
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{ date:2023-06, records: 17940, speakers: 56, languages: 35 },
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{ date:2023-07, records: 75825, speakers: 74, languages: 38 },
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{ date:2023-08, records: 32681, speakers: 54, languages: 30 },
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{ date:2023-09, records: 28813, speakers: 114, languages: 30 },
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{ date:2023-10, records: 60317, speakers: 167, languages: 47 },
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{ date:2023-11, records: 49704, speakers: 140, languages: 55 },
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{ date:2023-12, records: 42383, speakers: 114, languages: 41 },
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{ date:2024-01, records: 40572, speakers: 112, languages: 40 },
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{ date:2024-02, records: 22385, speakers: 197, languages: 57 },
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{ date:2024-03, records: 16997, speakers: 173, languages: 48 },
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{ date:2024-04, records: 8733, speakers: 117, languages: 42 },
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{ date:2024-05, records: 556, speakers: 7, languages: 7 }
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</pre>
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|-
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! Daily recordings over April and May 2024 || 
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|-
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<query _pagination="40">
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SELECT
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?yearmonthday
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(COUNT(DISTINCT ?record) AS ?records)
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(COUNT(DISTINCT ?speaker) AS ?speakers)
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(COUNT(DISTINCT ?language) AS ?languages)
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WHERE {
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  ?record prop:P5 ?speaker .
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  ?record prop:P4 ?language .
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  ?record prop:P6 ?date .
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  BIND( SUBSTR(str(?date), 0, 11) as ?yearmonthday )
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    { SELECT ?record
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      WHERE {
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      ?record prop:P2 entity:Q2 .
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      ?record prop:P6 ?date .
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      FILTER(?date >= "2024-04-01T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime)
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      FILTER(?date < "2024-05-30T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime)
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    }
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  }
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}
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GROUP BY ?yearmonthday
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ORDER BY (?yearmonthday)
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</query>
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| <= stops on 2024.05.01<br>Note: [[Special:Contributions/Austin Zhang|Austin Zhang]] recorded 174 audios on 05.11
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|}
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[[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 10:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
  
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Hugs of solidarity for your grave loss because of the fire! With everything going on with COVID last and this year, this was horrible! <3 --[[User:Psubhashish|Subhashish]] ([[User talk:Psubhashish|talk]]) 14:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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=== Fixed ===
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:Hi {{Ping|Psubhashish}} I'm Lingua Libre Bot's operator. It cannot operate on Wiktionaries on which it has not received the bot flag. Feel free to file a request on [[LinguaLibre:Bot]]. I'm falling behind with the various currently pending requests since I've been the handyman of Lingua Libre on and off, but at some point I'll be able to tackle these ;) --[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 15:23, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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Both IP ranges 2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 and 2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/33 were subject to global Wikimedia block at one point (see [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steward_requests/Global&oldid=26774369#Unregistered_users_only_block_for_the_range_2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 Global ban range_2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/32]). Following our request, the ban have been reconfigured and uploads from LinguaLibre are possible again. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 10:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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:: Hello all! {{ping|Poslovitch}} [[LinguaLibre:Bot#Bot_request_for_.7BOdia.7D_witkionary|done]], please let me know if there is anything that I could do.
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:I can record and upload since yesterday with my account, so that seems fixed. But it seems the stats are still not updated. [[User:Culex|Culex]] ([[User talk:Culex|talk]]) 12:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
  
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=== File name ===
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=== Logs ===
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:Hi {{u|Psubhashish}} regarding the second question about the filename, it has been decided to have only one record by word and by locutor. This means that if you record again the same word, the previous record will be replaced by the new one. Thus, it is possible to correct a bad/wrong pronunciation. Why would you like to record two times the same word? [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 17:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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For references, I investigated the relevant block logs and uploads logs for May 2024.<br>Conclusion: the uploads collapse is coherent with the IP Ban. Still, given bug reports from Akamycoco in *March* and 咽頭べさ [[:c:File:Lingua_Libre_error_2024.webm|on step 4]], I suspects other bugs are lingering around.
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::{{ping|Psubhashish|Pamputt}} I think that Psubhashish is refering to the historical naming convention (NB there is no actual naming convention on Commons, it is merely some advice for naming files) of pronunciation files on Commons ([[c:Commons:Pronunciation_files_requests#Naming_the_files|see here]]), that was unchanged since 2005 and clearly insufficient. This page was suggesting just to put a 2-letter language code and the pronunced word in the filename, which was problematic as soon as another speaker pronounced the same word (that's why they suggested to add a number if it was the case). I changed this page recently, to advice users to display in the filename at least the language spoken (iso 639-3 if possible), the word written in the language's writing system, an identifier for the user, and a place related to the speaker (the place where they learned the language and/or where they live). Lingua Libre's automatic naming already does that, except for the place of learning/residence (which is for the moment only available on the speaker's element, on Lingua Libre). {{ping|Psubhashish}} I don't understand why you would want to change your filenames for some more reductive ones. The more precise the filename is, the better it is to know information about the speaker! And it is still very easy to search for a precise word, you just have to type the word+.wav in Commons, or the word itself directly in Lingua Libre's searchbar.
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{| class=wikitable
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::All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 18:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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!width=50%| Global IP bans
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* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3A2001%3A41D0%3A%3A%2F32&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist 18:46, 13 May 2024] EPIC talk contribs changed global block settings for 2001:41d0::/32 talk with an expiration time of 00:51, 10 May 2026 (anonymous users only) (No open proxies <!-- SCLT ID: Possible VPN or Colocation -->)  
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*  [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3A2001%3A41D0%3A%3A%2F32&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist 00:51, 10 May 2024] AmandaNP talk contribs globally blocked 2001:41d0::/32 talk with an expiration time of 00:51, 10 May 2026 (No open proxies <!-- SCLT ID: Possible VPN or Colocation -->)
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* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3A2001%3A41D0%3A%3A%2F33&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist 17:02, 9 May 2024] EPIC talk contribs changed global block settings for 2001:41d0::/33 talk with an expiration time of 17:09, 1 May 2027 (anonymous users only) (Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected)  
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* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3A2001%3A41D0%3A%3A%2F33&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist 17:09, 1 May 2024] EPIC talk contribs blocked 2001:41d0::/33 talk with an expiration time of 2 years, 364 days, 12 hours, 21 minutes and 36 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled) (Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected)
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* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3A2001%3A41D0%3A%3A%2F33&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist 17:09, 1 May 2024] EPIC talk contribs globally blocked 2001:41d0::/33 talk with an expiration time of 17:09, 1 May 2027 (Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected)  
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* : [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&translations=filter&hidecategorization=1&hideWikibase=1&tagfilter=OAuth+CID%3A+1735&limit=500&days=30&urlversion=2 Uploads via Lingualibre resumed].
  
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::: {{ping|Pamputt}} and {{ping|WikiLucas00}} I didn't actually mean to create ambiguous filenames based on the older convention. I was worried for the multiple kinds of naming inside the category [[:c:commons:Odia pronunciation]]. The way the files are organized there are or-NAME.extension (e.g. File:Or-ଅନ୍ୟ.wav). What I am proposing is slightly different than how you want to capture the information in the file. I am all for metadata being captured inside the description. In fact, I'd support to add a field to describe the ISO 639-2/639-3 three-letter-codes (e.g. Ori-nor-ଏଇଚି.wav). There is currently no link to the Lingua Libre QID and I'd propose to add that too.
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13 May 2024
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* [... Many more uploads]
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* Upload log 23:39 Elwinlhq talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q5218 (que)-Elwinlhq-apaqay.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 19:05 Assassas77 talk contribs uploaded a new version of File:LL-Q9192 (cmn)-Assassas77-八角.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 19:05 Assassas77 talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q9192 (cmn)-Assassas77-八角.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 16:38 Oh! Tea<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User:Oh!_Tea Commons > User:Oh!_Tea :  « nothing » on Commons]</ref> talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q36759-Austin Zhang-sih8 buh8 sah8 nah4.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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11 May 2024
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* Upload log 20:21 Oh! Tea talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q36759-Austin Zhang-buah8.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* []... +172 recording by User:Oh! Tea]
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* Upload log 18:56 Oh! Tea talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q36759-Austin Zhang-a2.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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10 May 2024
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* Upload log 06:08 CapitainAfrika<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User:CapitainAfrika Commons > User:CapitainAfrika :  « IP block exempt » on Commons]</ref> talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q36217 (lin)-CapitainAfrika-Wiki na monɔkɔ mua bísó.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 00:14 Ardzun<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User:Ardzun Commons > User:Ardzun :  « nothing »]</ref> talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q13324 (min)-Ardzun-mada.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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9 May 2024
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* Upload log 17:08 Àncilu<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User:Àncilu Commons > User:Àncilu :  « Autopatroller » on Commons]</ref> talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q652 (ita)-XANA000-orsù.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 17:05 Àncilu talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q652 (ita)-XANA000-frac.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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5 May 2024
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* Upload log 21:15 Benoît Prieur<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User:Benoît_Prieur Commons > User:Benoît_Prieur :  « Administrator » on Commons]</ref> talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q8785 (hye)-Benoît Prieur-Artsakh.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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1 May 2024
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* Upload log 16:09 Penn Zero MSSJ<ref>[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User:Penn_Zero_MSSJ Commons > User:Penn Zero MSSJ :  « nothing » on Commons]</ref> talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q9199 (vie)-Penn Zero MSSJ-hệ số.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 16:09 Penn Zero MSSJ talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q9199 (vie)-Penn Zero MSSJ-hỗn số.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* Upload log 16:09 Penn Zero MSSJ talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q9199 (vie)-Penn Zero MSSJ-hằng đẳng thức.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
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* [... Many more uploads]
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[[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 10:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
  
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::: What I was proposing was not to reduce information collected but simplifying the filename. We're struggling at the moment to use a bot, find and search and insert a file from Commons into a Wiktionary entry. I'd love to hear from you all what the issue would be if the file descriptions template ({{t|Lingua Libre record}} contains information such as language name, language ISO (including variation), language Glottocode (which linguists prefer because ISO is faulty. ref. requirements by language archives such as Living Tongues, ELR and Language Archive Cologne), and information about speaker's age range, gender and region (as dialects also vary from region to region, optional field as this is personal data).
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== Kinyarwanda language representation ==
  
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::: The filename, however, can be simpler as using a bot to search for duplicates is hard now for the community because the QID and username are included in the filename. What if all that information, as I explained above, are included in the information below in the template and the file name can be the ISO 639-1 (for standard spoken forms or macrolanguages) or ISO 639-2 or 639-3 (for dialects/variations)? As I had explained in my previous comment, nor-NAME.wav and nor-NAME-01.wav will appear close to eachother because of alphabetical sorting. An average user without the knowledge of bots can even manually test the quality of recordings if they are using files on different Wikimedia projects. Can at least this be piloted for one language? --[[User:Psubhashish|Subhashish]] ([[User talk:Psubhashish|talk]]) 02:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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I'm Robert RUGAMBA from Rwanda and i belong to Wikimedia Rwanda as a volunteer and event organizer.
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I'm exited to explore this platform of lingua libre and i wish my local languages to be add and represented. the wikidata rabel is: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33573
  
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I have created a sub-section just to make clearer the discussion. I am completely lost. Currently, the files created on Lingua LIbre are all named such as [[c:File:LL-Q33810_(ori)-Psubhashish-ଫସ୍କା.wav|File:LL-Q33810_(ori)-Psubhashish-ଫସ୍କା.wav]], which mean File:LL-QID (LANGUAGE_CODE)-(LOCUTOR NAME)-WORD.wav, with QID the identifier of the language on Wikidata<s>identifier of the recording on Lingua Libre</s>, LANGUAGE CODE can be either two or three letters (ISO 639-3) if there is no 2 letters code for the language, LOCUTOR NAME, the name of the person who record on Lingua Libre and WORD the word that has been recorded. So could you give us an example pointing to a file that has not a suitable name from your point of view? I think it will help me to get your point. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 06:13, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks. [[User:Annick green|Annick green]]  
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:{{ping|Pamputt}} Watch out. The QID is not the recording's, it's the language's Wikidata QID ;) --[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 08:13, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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:{{Done}} This language was already on Lingualibre as [[Q285]]. If you open [[Special:RecordWizard]], at step 2, add it to your list of known languages. Please type in « Kinyarwanda », «Ikinyarwanda » and you should find it. Only user who have declared to know Kinyarwanda can record in Kinyarwanda. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 16:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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::Indeed :) Thank you, I correct in my previous message. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 08:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::: Hello all, what meant to say is I understand that you have a convention for LL. But I personally do not want my username of the QID of the language or too many signs or even blank spaces. All of that are a problem when it comes to a few thousand recordings by multiple authors where the same word recorded by different people do not even appear close to each other in a sorted list. As I had written earlier, metadata can be better captured in a more formatted way inside Commons and you're capturing it even better inside the Wikibase of LL. The question is whether the file name should have all the metdata or can it have even the most essential metadata. The username is irrelevant in a filename. If I click a picture of the Eiffel Tower or the Taj Mahal, my username appearing in the filename can only indicate a copyright owner pride. :D QID is a Wikimedian's paradise. It makes no sense to a common user. Entries on Commons are not just for use by Wikimedians but for the larger public. An ISO code (or a Glottolog ID) does this job (though one can argue that not all the people understand ISO codes). The three letter ISO code would address the language-dialect-variation in most cases. The word itself in the preferred script is self explanatory. All the metadata can be included inside the page using the LL template. I do not understand the insistence on adding additional info (QID and username). Also, just curious what really is the issue with ISO-FILENAME.EXTN (ori-କ.wav) for the first occurrence and ISO-FILENAME.EXTN (ori-କ-1.wav) for the second occurrence and so on? --[[User:Psubhashish|Subhashish]] ([[User talk:Psubhashish|talk]]) 09:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::Not all the languages we allow to record on LinguaLibre have an ISO code. That's why the QID is useful. --[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 09:33, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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::::: {{ping|Psubhashish}}, {{u|Poslovitch}} replied about the QID. About the username, the goal is to ensure that there is only one record per speaker. With such name, if you record twice the same words, only the lastest record will remain. It is very useful if you want to correct a wrong/bad pronunciation because the preivous recording is automatically replaced by the new one. Thus, no need for the user to ask for a deletion of the previous file on Wikimedia Commons.
 
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::::: That's said, I do not see the benefits to shorten the filename name. If you are looking for a given word, using the search engine on Wikimedia Commons should find the recordings. If you are interested by mass import, so Lingua Libre Bot is probably the tool you are looking for. If you want to do it by yourself, there are already some Python codes (other that LLBot) that do this job. See for example [https://github.com/JackPotte/JackBot/blob/master/src/wiktionary/fr_wiktionary_import_from_commons.py this code] that is used on the French Wiktionary. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 11:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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{{ping|Pamputt}} thanks for sharing this. I share the same concern with you when it comes to ISO and had shared about Glottolog ID. Glottolog ID is something field researchers as Gregory Anderson (Living Tongues) or organizations such as LAC and ELP use. But apart from Glottolog being used by field researchers, the classification is indeed really detailed. Does using QID solve any particular issue? I am yet to have explore the LL Bot but have made a [[LinguaLibre:Bot#Bot_request_for_.7BOdia.7D_witkionary|request]]. BTW can the LL Bot be used for inserting files that are already there on a Commons folder? You still didn't share why the ISO-FILENAME.EXTN and ISO-FILENAME-01.EXTN option is a bad one and why "LL-QID (ISO)-USERNAME-NAME.wav" is preferred over the former for the languages with ISO standards. Also, have you considered the need for the same word being recorded multiple times by someone who speaks in different accents or there is a need for different intonations/moods? A word might be written the same way in a particular writing system but there are often aforementioned needs. If a new recording overwrites an existing one, many might accidentally overwrite audio files that are needed. --[[User:Psubhashish|Subhashish]] ([[User talk:Psubhashish|talk]]) 14:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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:: ''Does using QID solve any particular issue?''
 
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:Using QID allow us to be able to record any language/dialect even those that would not be yet available in Glottolog. In addition, we are sure that the QID is stable and will not change in the future.
 
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::''You still didn't share why the ISO-FILENAME.EXTN and ISO-FILENAME-01.EXTN option is a bad one and why "LL-QID (ISO)-USERNAME-NAME.wav" is preferred over the former for the languages with ISO standards.''
 
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:This is what I tried to explain in the previous message. This is used to manage double recording and to correct bad pronuncitation files easily. If we use "ISO-FILENAME.EXTN", it is not linked to a locutor and so it means several files can be created by the same locutor, and the "bad" files will be kept. A name such as "LL-QID (ISO)-USERNAME-NAME.wav" solves this problem (maybe "LL" is not needed but it is only two letters). In addition, how you would record word from dialects or languages that do not have ISO codes if we use something like "ISO-FILENAME.EXTN"?
 
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::''Also, have you considered the need for the same word being recorded multiple times by someone who speaks in different accents or there is a need for different intonations/moods? A word might be written the same way in a particular writing system but there are often aforementioned needs. If a new recording overwrites an existing one, many might accidentally overwrite audio files that are needed.''
 
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: This are really rare cases. If a user wants to record himself/herself with several accents, probably most of the recordings will not be "natural", which mean the audio files will be poor quality for reusing. That's said, there is a way to manage words that spell the same but have differents pronunciations. In such cases, it is possible to add in bracket a precision about the word we want to record. For example in French, we have [[c:File:LL-Q150 (fra)-0x010C-fils (pluriel de fil).wav|File:LL-Q150 (fra)-0x010C-fils (pluriel de fil).wav]] (fils (plural of fil)) and [[c:File:LL-Q150 (fra)-0x010C-fils (enfant).wav|File:LL-Q150 (fra)-0x010C-fils (enfant).wav]] (fils (child)). So that, using the bracket, we are sure about the user intent [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 16:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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:''To be later moved to [[LinguaLibre:Bot]].''
 
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Bonjour, je veux relancer la discussion pour permettre le bot LinguaLibre d'ajouter des audio sur shy.wiktionary.org . je suis le seul admin de ce projet. je peux vous aider pour l'algorithme des pages, si vous n'êtes pas contre. merci d'avance.--[[User:Reda Kerbouche|Reda Kerbouche]] ([[User talk:Reda Kerbouche|talk]]) 12:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 
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: Salut {{u|Reda Kerbouche}} : on est train de réfléchir comment prendre en charge au mieux les différents Wiktionnaires. Si vais essayer de me motiver pour proposer quelque chose durant l'été. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 12:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 
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:: Bonjour Reda ! Je suis le dresseur du bot. Il faut remplir le formulaire dans [[LL:Bot]] pour que l'on ai les renseignements de base. Et d'ici à la fin de l'été, nous devrions avoir quelque chose de fonctionnel. --[[User:Poslovitch|Poslovitch]] ([[User talk:Poslovitch|talk]]) 14:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 
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:::Salut Reda ! :D [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 19:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 
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Salut {{u|Poslovitch}} et {{u|Yug}} normalement {{u|Pamputt}} vous a transmis toutes les informations nécessaire. Pamputt a même fait une demande pour avoir le statut de Bot dans le wiktionnaire en Chaoui. et je viens de créer la page d'utilisateur du bot, que vous pouvez modifier comme vous voulez. S'il y a de nouveau tenez-moi au courant, surtout pour le test du bot amicalement--[[User:Reda Kerbouche|Reda Kerbouche]] ([[User talk:Reda Kerbouche|talk]]) 14:45, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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Hello. I've renamed my account on wikimedia sites but can't log in directly from this username here. Do i have something to do ? My old username is '''ElsaBester''' and the new one is '''L'embellie'''. Thanks !
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Hello, in the last days I have watched the Videos about the Annual Plan 2021/2022 and after that I have thinked about if it is helpful to use the words that where mentioned in the videos extract them and add them as files to Wikimedia Commons. From my point of view it is useful. It were a chance to get a lot of words in a short time. What do you think about that. Is it something that is helpful or not.--[[User:Hogü-456|Hogü-456]] ([[User talk:Hogü-456|talk]]) 19:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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:Hello [[User:ElsaBester|L'embellie]],
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:[[User:Hogü-456|Hogü-456]] welcome, Can you share with us the webpage or material you think about via a link ? So we can see better what you are talking about.
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:I may ping [[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas00]], but I think we don't currently have solution for your issue.
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:If you want to extract unique words from text, we already have some scripts to extract lists from raw text or to [[Help:How_to_create_a_frequency_list%3F#Create_frequency_list_from_en:Dragon|extract unique words from wikipages]]. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 14:18, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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:We are phasing out this wiki, we hope to release a new Lingualibre this winter or early 2025. So this issue will be irrelevant by then. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 20:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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::Hey there {{ping|ElsaBester|Yug}}. Sorry I don't have a solution, but I found this in the Chat Room's archives: [[LinguaLibre:Chat_room/Archives/2023#Update_my_username]]. Good luck — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 18:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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:::Hello {{ping|ElsaBester}} you may also look at my latest reply on [[User talk:Yug]], it's not a great option but maybe you'll want to try it. All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  
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== Two French words that are impossible to record ==
  
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Hi, can you delete all recordings from 12:55 on the 5 June 2021 I made, I recorded them in the wrong language. See [https://lingualibre.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Berrely here]. Thanks! [[User:Berrely|Berrely]] ([[User talk:Berrely|talk]]) 10:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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:Hi {{u|Berrely}}, for now I have listed the recordings [[LinguaLibre:Misleading_items/Berrely_20210802|here]]. Currently, I am developing a bot that will fix massively such issues. I hope it will be finished before the end of August. Could you confirm that the "correct" language is Farsi (instead of English)? [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 11:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 
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:{{u|Pamputt}} yes the correct language is Farsi, not English. I already deleted the files from Commons, and intend to rerecord them. [[User:Berrely|Berrely]] ([[User talk:Berrely|talk]]) 13:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 
  
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Two words are impossible to record (even before uploading): ''esclavesse'' and ''scribesse'' (all my attempts with other words work). [[User:Avatea|Avatea]] ([[User talk:Avatea|talk]]) 18:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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:Hi {{ping|Avatea}}. Sorry for the late reply. I couldn't reproduce the issue on my side, as you can see ({{Q|1385666}}, {{Q|1385667}}) I just recorded a few words ending with -esse, including the two words you mention, without encountering any issue. Did you try again recently? All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 14:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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:: Hi {{ping| WikiLucas00}}
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:: No. I just tried, I was able to record another word, but still not those two. [[User:Avatea|Avatea]] ([[User talk:Avatea|talk]]) 19:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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:: After several dozen new recordings (and I had made hundreds of others before), still unable to record these two words. Tested on macOS and Windows. [[User:Avatea|Avatea]] ([[User talk:Avatea|talk]]) 21:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  
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:#I think that any use is a good one, but indeed, if you have a list of terms you want to record, it might be a good start! You could [[Special:MyLanguage/Help:Create_your_own_lists|put them in a local list]], use it in the Record Wizard (Step 3, "local list") and then edit manually each page on which you want to display the recordings.
 
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All the best and welcome again, don't hesitate if you have more questions! — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 14:56, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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Bonjour! À cause d'une erreur lors d'écriture et parce que je l'ai fait pressé, j'ai enregistré par erreur deux termes: *"[[Q1387394|escaramón]]" et son pluriel *"[[Q1387395|escaramones]]". Serait-il possible de supprimer ces fichiers enregistrés ? J'ai déjà fait les enregistrements corrects de ces mots bien écrits et avec la prononciation correcte: "[[Q1387396|escamarón]]", "[[Q1387397|escamarones]]". Vous pouvez vérifier l’exactitude de ce terme [https://diccionariu.alladixital.org/index.php?cod=21008 ici]. Désolé pour le dérangement. --[[User:Limotecariu|Limotecariu]] ([[User talk:Limotecariu|talk]]) 20:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Is the Record Wizard not working for anyone else?

My mic works with mictests.com, but the RecordWizard doesn't pick anything up at the "check your microphone" stage. I've tried on both my phone and my laptop, and I can record sound in both cases, and I have the appropriate permissions enabled, but this particular website isn't detecting sounds. Is anyone else having this kind of problem? Grendelkhan (talk) 23:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello User:Grendelkhan,
I just received a second such report. User also checked mictests.com sucessfully.
On Firefox, Lingua Libre recording studio step 4, the microphone is allowed (we see the red microphone image on the left of the URL address). But after clicking the record button, no recording occurs.
  • Mictests on other site : successful.
  • Device: Notebook
  • OS: ?
  • Browser: Firefox, Chrome.
  • User: User:Akamycoco.
  • Languages affected: all.
  • Dates : Worked on February 28. Stopped working on February 29.
Let's starts an investigation. Could you let me know your OS and precise web browser version ? (Help > About Chrome or similar)
Let me know as well if you have basic developer skills to Right-click on the staled page > Inspect > Console : are there any error message ? Yug (talk) 07:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
My laptop is using Google Chrome 122.0.6261.94 (Official Build) (64-bit) on Linux (Debian Testing). No error messages in the console when I attempt the recording. My phone is using Chrome 122.0.6261.90 on Android 14 on a Pixel 5a. It does seem to work on Firefox 115.7.0esr (64-bit) on my laptop. (I really should have checked that before.) So maybe this is solely a Chrome problem? Grendelkhan (talk) 16:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Automatic categorization isn't documented.

So far as I can tell, this isn't documented: if, for user Foo, category Lingua Libre pronunciation by Foo exists on Commons, then all uploads will be categorized into that category. This is helpful! It's also easy to backfill after the fact using commons:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot. I'm not sure where to document this, but it seems reasonable to do so somewhere. Grendelkhan (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Understanding lingua-libre

Hi, I am creating this discussion to understand lingua-libre better

Uploads are failing

TLDR: Large amount of users reporting failure to upload at step 5 : Grendelkhan, Culex, XANA000, Ardzun (Indonesian languages), Penn Zero MSSJ, User:Univòc64 (Whistled Occitan) and User:Akamycoco (Taiwanese languages). This likely only tip of iceberg. Only few users were able to record in May, with atypically low number of recordings. Indonesia workshop with ~15 participants critically affected. Investigation ongoing. Hugo en résidence (talk) 14:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I can record words, but uploading them to Commons fails. The JavaScript console has the following message:

Your IP address is in a range that has been blocked on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis. The block was made by ‪EPIC‬. The reason given is Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected. * Start of block: 10:09, 1 May 2024 * Expiry of block: 10:09, 1 May 2027 Your current IP address is 2001:41d0:304:100::4790. The blocked range is ‪2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/33‬. Please include all above details in any queries you make. If you believe you were blocked by mistake, you can find additional information and instructions in the No open proxies global policy. Otherwise, to discuss the block please post a request for review on Meta-Wiki. You could also send an email to the stewards VRT queue at "stewards@wikimedia.org" including all above details.`, blockinfo: {…}, "*": "See https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/mediawiki-api-announce.lists.wikimedia.org/> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes."

This is not my IP address shown in the error message, and whatismyip confirms that I'm not behind a proxy. The Global block request is here. Is this affecting anyone else? I lost a heap of recordings. Grendelkhan (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Uploads are failing for me today too, even though I am recording with my account. Culex (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Idem--XANA000 (talk) 16:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I can record, but i couldn’t uploaded until today. I was able to upload once yesterday, but after that I couldn't upload any more. Ardzun (talk) 06:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
I guess I'm not the only one who's been trying for weeks but could not publish audio after 1 May. Hope someone can fix it. Penn Zero MSSJ (talk) 20:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
User:Univòc64 (Whistled occitan) and User:Akamycoco (Taiwanese languages) also reported issues.
It seems time to add a sitenotice warning. Hugo en résidence (talk) 14:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
In may we have mostly : 556 recordings by 7 users on May 1th, 174 recordings on May 11th (Austin Zhang), then nothing.
If we compare with known monthly recordings, our average months recently was 30k audios, the lowest ones were 5k audios, May 2024 is heading toward 1200 audios or 5% of the average month and 20% of the lowest months. Something weird is going on indeed.
Most prolific speakers for the current month Months since 2022
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{ date:2022-01, records: 21290, speakers: 46, languages: 28 },
{ date:2022-02, records: 3894, speakers: 40, languages: 17 },
{ date:2022-03, records: 8357, speakers: 61, languages: 21 },
{ date:2022-04, records: 5454, speakers: 34, languages: 18 },
{ date:2022-05, records: 4702, speakers: 59, languages: 30 },
{ date:2022-06, records: 7675, speakers: 41, languages: 18 },
{ date:2022-07, records: 4364, speakers: 37, languages: 22 },
{ date:2022-08, records: 9544, speakers: 45, languages: 23 },
{ date:2022-09, records: 5802, speakers: 113, languages: 30 },
{ date:2022-10, records: 6931, speakers: 74, languages: 32 },
{ date:2022-11, records: 8461, speakers: 54, languages: 34 },
{ date:2022-12, records: 11882, speakers: 54, languages: 23 },
{ date:2023-01, records: 18150, speakers: 48, languages: 29 },
{ date:2023-02, records: 32441, speakers: 65, languages: 29 },
{ date:2023-03, records: 11527, speakers: 61, languages: 30 },
{ date:2023-04, records: 8451, speakers: 58, languages: 35 },
{ date:2023-05, records: 21282, speakers: 97, languages: 49 },
{ date:2023-06, records: 17940, speakers: 56, languages: 35 },
{ date:2023-07, records: 75825, speakers: 74, languages: 38 },
{ date:2023-08, records: 32681, speakers: 54, languages: 30 },
{ date:2023-09, records: 28813, speakers: 114, languages: 30 },
{ date:2023-10, records: 60317, speakers: 167, languages: 47 },
{ date:2023-11, records: 49704, speakers: 140, languages: 55 },
{ date:2023-12, records: 42383, speakers: 114, languages: 41 },
{ date:2024-01, records: 40572, speakers: 112, languages: 40 },
{ date:2024-02, records: 22385, speakers: 197, languages: 57 },
{ date:2024-03, records: 16997, speakers: 173, languages: 48 },
{ date:2024-04, records: 8733, speakers: 117, languages: 42 },
{ date:2024-05, records: 556, speakers: 7, languages: 7 }
Daily recordings over April and May 2024
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 <= stops on 2024.05.01
Note: Austin Zhang recorded 174 audios on 05.11

Yug (talk) 10:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Fixed

Both IP ranges 2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 and 2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/33 were subject to global Wikimedia block at one point (see Global ban range_2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/32). Following our request, the ban have been reconfigured and uploads from LinguaLibre are possible again. Yug (talk) 10:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I can record and upload since yesterday with my account, so that seems fixed. But it seems the stats are still not updated. Culex (talk) 12:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Logs

For references, I investigated the relevant block logs and uploads logs for May 2024.
Conclusion: the uploads collapse is coherent with the IP Ban. Still, given bug reports from Akamycoco in *March* and 咽頭べさ on step 4, I suspects other bugs are lingering around.

Global IP bans Lingualibre uploads logs
  • 18:46, 13 May 2024 EPIC talk contribs changed global block settings for 2001:41d0::/32 talk with an expiration time of 00:51, 10 May 2026 (anonymous users only) (No open proxies )
  • 00:51, 10 May 2024 AmandaNP talk contribs globally blocked 2001:41d0::/32 talk with an expiration time of 00:51, 10 May 2026 (No open proxies )
  • 17:02, 9 May 2024 EPIC talk contribs changed global block settings for 2001:41d0::/33 talk with an expiration time of 17:09, 1 May 2027 (anonymous users only) (Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected)
  • 17:09, 1 May 2024 EPIC talk contribs blocked 2001:41d0::/33 talk with an expiration time of 2 years, 364 days, 12 hours, 21 minutes and 36 seconds (anonymous users only, account creation disabled) (Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected)
  • 17:09, 1 May 2024 EPIC talk contribs globally blocked 2001:41d0::/33 talk with an expiration time of 17:09, 1 May 2027 (Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected)

13 May 2024

  • [... Many more uploads]
  • Upload log 23:39 Elwinlhq talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q5218 (que)-Elwinlhq-apaqay.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
  • Upload log 19:05 Assassas77 talk contribs uploaded a new version of File:LL-Q9192 (cmn)-Assassas77-八角.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
  • Upload log 19:05 Assassas77 talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q9192 (cmn)-Assassas77-八角.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]
  • Upload log 16:38 Oh! Tea[1] talk contribs uploaded File:LL-Q36759-Austin Zhang-sih8 buh8 sah8 nah4.wav ‎ Tag: Lingua Libre [2.2]

11 May 2024

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Yug (talk) 10:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Kinyarwanda language representation

I'm Robert RUGAMBA from Rwanda and i belong to Wikimedia Rwanda as a volunteer and event organizer. I'm exited to explore this platform of lingua libre and i wish my local languages to be add and represented. the wikidata rabel is: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33573

Thanks. Annick green

Check-green.svg Done This language was already on Lingualibre as Kinyarwanda (Q285). If you open Special:RecordWizard, at step 2, add it to your list of known languages. Please type in « Kinyarwanda », «Ikinyarwanda » and you should find it. Only user who have declared to know Kinyarwanda can record in Kinyarwanda. Yug (talk) 16:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Rename my pseudonym

Hello. I've renamed my account on wikimedia sites but can't log in directly from this username here. Do i have something to do ? My old username is ElsaBester and the new one is L'embellie. Thanks !

Hello L'embellie,
I may ping WikiLucas00, but I think we don't currently have solution for your issue.
We are phasing out this wiki, we hope to release a new Lingualibre this winter or early 2025. So this issue will be irrelevant by then. Yug (talk) 20:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Hey there @ElsaBester & Yug . Sorry I don't have a solution, but I found this in the Chat Room's archives: LinguaLibre:Chat_room/Archives/2023#Update_my_username. Good luck — WikiLucas (🖋️) 18:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ElsaBester you may also look at my latest reply on User talk:Yug, it's not a great option but maybe you'll want to try it. All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 12:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Two French words that are impossible to record

Hi,

Two words are impossible to record (even before uploading): esclavesse and scribesse (all my attempts with other words work). Avatea (talk) 18:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Avatea . Sorry for the late reply. I couldn't reproduce the issue on my side, as you can see (esclavesse (Q1385666), scribesse (Q1385667)) I just recorded a few words ending with -esse, including the two words you mention, without encountering any issue. Did you try again recently? All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 14:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi @WikiLucas00
No. I just tried, I was able to record another word, but still not those two. Avatea (talk) 19:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
After several dozen new recordings (and I had made hundreds of others before), still unable to record these two words. Tested on macOS and Windows. Avatea (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Supprimer deux enregistrements incorrects.

Bonjour! À cause d'une erreur lors d'écriture et parce que je l'ai fait pressé, j'ai enregistré par erreur deux termes: *"escaramón" et son pluriel *"escaramones". Serait-il possible de supprimer ces fichiers enregistrés ? J'ai déjà fait les enregistrements corrects de ces mots bien écrits et avec la prononciation correcte: "escamarón", "escamarones". Vous pouvez vérifier l’exactitude de ce terme ici. Désolé pour le dérangement. --Limotecariu (talk) 20:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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