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Revision as of 00:58, 12 November 2021
Welcome to the Lingua Libre Bot service!
Lingua Libre Bot (aka LiLiBot or LLBot) is passionate about audio recordings, languages and Wikimedia projects. Every day, it adds Lingua Libre's latest audio recordings to the relevant pages on various Wikimedia projects.
Due to the big amount of recordings added every day, it is necessary for LiLiBot to obtain the Bot status on each wiki it works on, in order to contribute to it safely. As of today, the bot is allowed and able to contribute to four Wikimedia projects.
YOU can help LiLiBot pursue its mission! Follow the guidelines on this page to request LiLiBot on your wiki!
Request form
This page serves as a request page for Lingua Libre Bot on specific wikis.
Copy and adapt this template to your needs, then paste it in a new section at the bottom of this page:
== Bot request for the {language} Wiktionary ==
{{Bot steps}}
* '''Example pages (≥3):''' a few links to your Wiktionary's pages that are examples of the usual page structure.
* '''Target section:''' title of the section in which the recordings should be listed (on the French Wiktionary, this is {{S|prononciation}})
* '''Local audio template(s) example(s):''' an example of how the audio recording template is used : e.g. {{deng|en|en-us-apple.ogg|Deng (DYA)}}
* '''Local audio template(s) explained:''' explain the various parameters of that template (especially if the documentation of your template is not available in English nor in French)
** {Deng} means "audio", and take the following parameters...
** <code>en</code> is the iso639-2 of the audio.
** <code>en-us-apple.ogg</code> is the filename
** <code>Deng (DYA)</code> means audio (deng) and USA (DYA) which is the local variant or accent.
* '''Edit summary text: ''' the summary text you would like to be displayed on your wiki when Lingua Libre Bot adds an audio file.
* Request by: ~~~~
You can also read and publish useful information about bots in general on the current collaborative page.
Bot request for {or} witkionary
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- Example pages (3): or:wikt:ଓଡ଼ିଆ, or:wikt:ଓଡ଼ିଆ - You can see best audio integration there.
- Target section: the audio file should be added at the end of the
==ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ==section, which means pronunciation - Local audio template(s) example(s): Template:ଅଡ଼ିଓ
- Local audio template(s) explained:
- {ଅଡ଼ିଓ} means "audio", and take the following parameters...
oris the iso639-2 of the audio.or-ଓଡ଼ିଆ.wavis the filenameଧ୍ୱନି (ମାନକ ଓଡ଼ିଆ)means audio (ଧ୍ୱନି) in "ମାନକ ଓଡ଼ିଆ" (standard spoken Odia language) which is the standard spoken variant or accent.
- Request by: Subhashish (talk) 19:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Poslovitch is there anything that I need to share with you here? --Subhashish (talk) 01:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Psubhashish the request looks fine. I'm attending a hackathon this week; I probably won't get to go through all of the requests, but we will probably find a way to speed up the process. I'll keep you posted once the bot is ready to contribute on orwikt ;) --Poslovitch (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Poslovitch , all the best for the hackathon! :) This can wait after all. Quick question -- there are more than 6K words in the ory category on Commons which have the File:or-WORD.wav/ogg/flac format (some are ori-nor-NAME.wav and are categorized properly). 3.7K of these 6K+ files were recorded using LL but are now disconnected from the LL Wikibase (meaning LL Wikibase will have their former filenames) while renaming on Commons. Can we use your bot to insert them into the respective pages on orwikt? --Subhashish (talk) 15:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- If they got renamed, the bot won't be able to find them, sadly. I'm noting we need a way to detect if a file got renamed on Commons so that the Wikibase here gets updated, which in turn would allow the bot to find the recordings. --Poslovitch (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Poslovitch , indeed, linking changed files would be very helpful. Please let me know once your bot starts to insert the recorded files to the Odia Wiktionary. --Subhashish (talk) 04:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- If they got renamed, the bot won't be able to find them, sadly. I'm noting we need a way to detect if a file got renamed on Commons so that the Wikibase here gets updated, which in turn would allow the bot to find the recordings. --Poslovitch (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Poslovitch , all the best for the hackathon! :) This can wait after all. Quick question -- there are more than 6K words in the ory category on Commons which have the File:or-WORD.wav/ogg/flac format (some are ori-nor-NAME.wav and are categorized properly). 3.7K of these 6K+ files were recorded using LL but are now disconnected from the LL Wikibase (meaning LL Wikibase will have their former filenames) while renaming on Commons. Can we use your bot to insert them into the respective pages on orwikt? --Subhashish (talk) 15:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Psubhashish the request looks fine. I'm attending a hackathon this week; I probably won't get to go through all of the requests, but we will probably find a way to speed up the process. I'll keep you posted once the bot is ready to contribute on orwikt ;) --Poslovitch (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish I have one more question concerning the template "audio". In the description you gave above, it can be used only for Odia words. If you want LinguaLibre Bot to add audio pronunciations also for words in other languages (French, English, Hindi, etc) that may be present on the Odia Wiktionary, you should give us a string corresponding to
ଧ୍ୱନି (ମାନକ ଓଡ଼ିଆ)but for all the other languages (or maybe, there is a way to get these names automatically from Wikidata or any other way). Pamputt (talk) 20:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)- @Pamputt I'd guess Wikidata would be the place for other language words. We don't have any active contribution at the moment in other languages but what you asked might arise in the future. There are however, pronunciations in the Baleswari Odia dialect which are rightly tagged here on LL. --Subhashish (talk) 13:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Poslovitch circling back quickly to check if the Lili bot can be enabled for Odia and the Wiktionary entries can be updated with the recorded audio? Thanks! --Subhashish (talk) 09:23, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish If you don't change the filenames, we will be able to take over Odia Wiktionary with Lingua Libre Bot in the coming weeks. 🙂 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 09:59, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @WikiLucas00 @Poslovitch I haven't actually changed many [edit: any recently, I am referring to a few thousand recordings that I have not changed]. Not sure if you have checked my most recent edits. I paused changing until we fully discuss that matter. Please go ahead and help run the bot. --Subhashish (talk) 04:41, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish If you don't change the filenames, we will be able to take over Odia Wiktionary with Lingua Libre Bot in the coming weeks. 🙂 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 09:59, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Poslovitch circling back quickly to check if the Lili bot can be enabled for Odia and the Wiktionary entries can be updated with the recorded audio? Thanks! --Subhashish (talk) 09:23, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @WikiLucas00 @Poslovitch sorry to say this but it feels like going in circles explaining something. I've stopped renaming files for a reason -- I didn't want to break the linked data from LL which I did not realize. Can we please *not* go again and again over the same renaming issue that is non-existent now and have the bot running for Odia? I do not know how to explain something more explicitly. I had made a request for a bot a month ago and have not renamed files after that. Being a Wikipedian myself, I understand that there are many volunteers who are working hard and I don't expect any requested action to come swiftly. But going over the same thing when it does not exist is a sheer waste of collective time. Should I give up on the bot request and continue only recording? --Subhashish (talk) 09:00, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish I think the delay comes mainly from the fact people are currently on holidays in France and usually there are less contributions, including coding contributions, during summer time. That's said, I will code the Odia Wiktionary support in Lingua Libre Bot. For now, I have proposed a support for the Shawiya Wiktionary because their structure in very close from the French Wiktionary. Once it will be on production, we will add support for Odia Wiktionary. I prefer to add support one by one not to get all bug reports at the same time. Pamputt (talk) 09:59, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- @WikiLucas00 Thanks for sharing these. I was almost giving up on the bot linking. No rush though now that there is some plan. --Subhashish (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish I think the delay comes mainly from the fact people are currently on holidays in France and usually there are less contributions, including coding contributions, during summer time. That's said, I will code the Odia Wiktionary support in Lingua Libre Bot. For now, I have proposed a support for the Shawiya Wiktionary because their structure in very close from the French Wiktionary. Once it will be on production, we will add support for Odia Wiktionary. I prefer to add support one by one not to get all bug reports at the same time. Pamputt (talk) 09:59, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt I'd guess Wikidata would be the place for other language words. We don't have any active contribution at the moment in other languages but what you asked might arise in the future. There are however, pronunciations in the Baleswari Odia dialect which are rightly tagged here on LL. --Subhashish (talk) 13:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Technical details
Psubhashish, I have more technical questions regarding the Oriya Wiktionary support.
- Could you tell me all the languages Lingua Libre Bot should support. I already understood that one section is title ==ଓଡ଼ିଆ== but you talked about the Baleswari Odia dialect; is the title section also ==ଓଡ଼ିଆ== ?
- (SP) I'm not sure if I get your question correctly. Baleswari Odia is a dialect of Odia (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) so all words still go to the same Odia Wiktionary.
- Ok, clear all the recordings you would like LLBot manage are under ==ଓଡ଼ିଆ==.
- (SP) Yes.
- Ok, clear all the recordings you would like LLBot manage are under ==ଓଡ଼ିଆ==.
- (SP) I'm not sure if I get your question correctly. Baleswari Odia is a dialect of Odia (ଓଡ଼ିଆ) so all words still go to the same Odia Wiktionary.
- Could you translate "Adding a pronunciation audio file from Lingua Libre"? This is the summary that will be displayed when Lingua Libre Bot will add a pronunciation.
- (SP) Sure, "ଲିଙ୍ଗୁଆ ଲିବ୍ରେରୁ ଏକ ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ ଅଡ଼ିଓ ଯୋଡ଼ିଲି" (translates to "[I] have added a LL pronunciation audio from Lingua Libre" as it sounds more appropriate for the summary. The literal translation for the English text you've shared would be "ଲିଙ୍ଗୁଆ ଲିବ୍ରେରୁ ଏକ ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ ଅଡ଼ିଓ ଯୋଡ଼ୁଛି". I am hoping transliterating Lingua Libre is okay. Otherwise you could replace "ଲିଙ୍ଗୁଆ ଲିବ୍ରେ" with "Lingua Libre".)
- Thanks, for the transliteration of the name Lingua Libre, up to you; this is what will be displayed on your wiki. If this understandable by contributors over there, no problem.
- (SP) The contributors are one admin who is not active at the moment but is also responsible for keeping the project alive and myself. But we certainly approve. :D
- (SP) Sure, "ଲିଙ୍ଗୁଆ ଲିବ୍ରେରୁ ଏକ ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ ଅଡ଼ିଓ ଯୋଡ଼ିଲି" (translates to "[I] have added a LL pronunciation audio from Lingua Libre" as it sounds more appropriate for the summary. The literal translation for the English text you've shared would be "ଲିଙ୍ଗୁଆ ଲିବ୍ରେରୁ ଏକ ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ ଅଡ଼ିଓ ଯୋଡ଼ୁଛି". I am hoping transliterating Lingua Libre is okay. Otherwise you could replace "ଲିଙ୍ଗୁଆ ଲିବ୍ରେ" with "Lingua Libre".)
- Could you list all the sections that may follow the pronunciation section (ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ)?
- (SP) Odia Wiktionary does not yet have the structure for most of the words. Creating/adding inside the "ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ" section would be just fine for now.
- Ok, I will take into account this point.
- @Psubhashish Actually, this question is useful to know where to create the pronunciation section if there is none. Should LLbot add the pronunciation section at the end of the language section, just before the categories or is there a most suitable location? Pamputt (talk) 20:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I will take into account this point.
- (SP) Odia Wiktionary does not yet have the structure for most of the words. Creating/adding inside the "ଉଚ୍ଚାରଣ" section would be just fine for now.
- It seems that the ଅଡ଼ିଓ template does not take parameter for specifying the location of the speaker; could you confirm that?
- (SP) I believe so. Is there an example where it displays the location? We could update the template and translate the parameter fields.
- Actually the audio template from enwiktionary does not have such parameter. If you want one example, the écouter template on the French Wiktionary has such parameter. It has to been discussed on your wiki to know whether you want to implement this paramter on your template and so whether you want to display such information.
- (SP) I believe so. Is there an example where it displays the location? We could update the template and translate the parameter fields.
Pamputt (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- This seems to be quite useful but I am not sure if the location data is captured well. For instance, I have used "Odisha" (which is a province and not city) in all my recordings. This can be ignored for the time being I guess. --Subhashish (talk) 05:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Working prototype
@Psubhashish I have a working prototype for Lingua lIbre Bot to support Odia language. It was a bit tricky to write the code because your Wiktionary is not well formated. It is not a big deal but it makes stuff more difficult to write and I am not sure that all cases are taken into account. In addition, because I do not read the Odia script, it makes me not really confortable to debug. So while waiting for Poslovitch to come back, I can run the bot with my own account (PamputtBot) to check that everything works properly. So if you agree I do so, I can run the bot on 10/20 words and then you could check that it works well and report any problem. In addition, could you add a label on Wikidata for all language listed here because for now the bot get the label to identify the language (not the sitelink). So for example, for ଓଡ଼ିଆ, it will look for a language whose the Odia label is "ଓଡ଼ିଆ". The same for water, it will look for "ଇଂରାଜୀ ଭାଷା" (not "ଇଂରାଜୀ"). Pamputt (talk) 18:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt : this is great news. I have linked all the categories inside the main cat language. Let's see the magic happen. :-) Yes, 10-20 test runs would be good. It is possible to revert even if something goes wrong terribly. --Subhashish (talk) 01:25, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish thanks for linking the main categories. In addition, would it be possible to add the label to the language item. Example : Q13955 for Arabic language (there is currenlty no label in Odia), the same for Q9056 (Czech language), etc. This is needed because the bot uses the label of the language item (not the language category item) to determine the language of the section on the Odia Wiktionary. Thanks in advance. Pamputt (talk) 08:25, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt Done. :)
- @Psubhashish I have run Ligua Libre Bot on the Odia Wiktionary with my own account. There was a problem with template name but this is now fixed in the LLbot code and in by hand for the Odia Wiktionary entries. Please check and report any mistake. Pamputt (talk) 07:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt Done. :)
- @Pamputt Hello! I just checked and it looks perfect. Thanks much. I think we're good to roll with your bot. :) --Subhashish (talk) 12:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, perfect. I've opened a pull request to add the Odia Wiktionary code to Lingua Libre. I think it will be merged before the end of the month. In the future, it will be important to check whether it works correctly for languages other than the Odia language. Pamputt (talk) 12:34, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Great, thanks much again. Will wait until you have more updates on this. --Subhashish (talk) 19:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, perfect. I've opened a pull request to add the Odia Wiktionary code to Lingua Libre. I think it will be merged before the end of the month. In the future, it will be important to check whether it works correctly for languages other than the Odia language. Pamputt (talk) 12:34, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Psubhashish thanks for linking the main categories. In addition, would it be possible to add the label to the language item. Example : Q13955 for Arabic language (there is currenlty no label in Odia), the same for Q9056 (Czech language), etc. This is needed because the bot uses the label of the language item (not the language category item) to determine the language of the section on the Odia Wiktionary. Thanks in advance. Pamputt (talk) 08:25, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Bot request for ku.wiktionary
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- Example pages (3): ku:wikt:beran, ku:wikt:başûr, ku:wikt:keskesor- You can see best audio integration there.
- Target section: The audio file should be added at the end of the
=== Bilêvkirin ===section, which means "Pronunciation". If there is no=== Bilêvkirin ===section on the page, please create one after the language section, that is== {{ziman|<lang code>}} ==. If there is no language section, the audio file should not be added. - Local audio template(s) example(s):
{{deng|ku|LL-Q36368 (kur)-Mihemed Qers-keskesor.wav|Deng|dever=Qers}} - Local audio template(s) explained:
- {Deng} is the template name which means "audio", and takes the following parameters...
kuis the lang code from ISO 639-1 of the audio, ISO 639-3 and ISO 639-2 are also in use.LL-Q36368 (kur)-Mihemed Qers-keskesor.wavis the filenameDengmeans audio, should always be present.|dever=means place of origin, could be local variant or accent, country or city name. In the example "Qers" is the Kurdish name for the city en:Kars.
- Request by: Balyozxane (talk) 04:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Here are two examples [1], [2]. If there are multiple part of speech sections we still collect them all at the top of the page like this [3].
|dever=parameter should fetch the Kurdish names for places from Wikidata if possible. Lingua libre uses "kur" code for Kurdish, but we use "ku" and sometimes "kmr" on ku.wikt. Even when the language code is "kmr" in language section, the lang code in {{deng|<lang code>}} should be "ku". I think that's all I can remember. Any questions? --Balyozxane (talk) 00:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)- You can also take a look at this page [4] for guidance.--Balyozxane (talk) 00:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Balyozxane , your last link is a diff, is it normal ? Also, can you reformat a bit your request so it follow the template above. You can also allow me to edit your text and I will happily do it. cc: user:Poslovitch. Yug (talk) 18:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Yug The last link was for example only to show there are other varients but the first two are the desired outcome from the LiLiBot. Feel free to correct my use of the template as free as you can. Balyozxane (talk) 04:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Balyozxane Thanks! I'll get to work ASAP. I'll notify you once I'm ready to test the bot ;) --Poslovitch (talk) 13:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you!Balyozxane (talk) 08:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Balyozxane Thanks! I'll get to work ASAP. I'll notify you once I'm ready to test the bot ;) --Poslovitch (talk) 13:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Yug The last link was for example only to show there are other varients but the first two are the desired outcome from the LiLiBot. Feel free to correct my use of the template as free as you can. Balyozxane (talk) 04:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Balyozxane , your last link is a diff, is it normal ? Also, can you reformat a bit your request so it follow the template above. You can also allow me to edit your text and I will happily do it. cc: user:Poslovitch. Yug (talk) 18:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- You can also take a look at this page [4] for guidance.--Balyozxane (talk) 00:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Connexion via Oauth and Bots for Unilex lists editing
Done
@Olaf & Poslovitch Hello folks. I'am having some connection issues with WikiAPI (JS) code to connect to LinguaLibre. Is there some special thing to do to connect my bot to edit Lili ? As human using chrome, being connected to Commons alone doesn't connect you to LinguaLibre. We have to come here, click login, which sends a Oauth query (I guess), check my login status on Commons, then makes something so I'am loggued into both Commons and Lingualibre. I suspect some additional Oauth query is needed inside my bot. Yug (talk) 21:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Normally the login procedure here is very complicated: mw:OAuth/For_Developers, and I've never managed to implement it, however if you use a bot account, you can create a password in Special:BotPasswords, and then log in directly on Lingua Libre wiki without Commons. Alternatively you can use one of the JS frameworks to log in. Finally, if you are logged in manually in the browser, the authorization proof should be in cookies, so the JS scripts in the browser should work fine. Olaf (talk) 21:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Special:BotPasswords/Dragons_Bot. Progress underway. Thank you.
- I see :
Allowed IP ranges: 0.0.0.0/0 ::/0
- Any explanation for this ? Dragons Bot (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Lists: approach and limits
Dragons Bot script is ready to run. A test back is visible on Special:Contributions/Dragons_Bot.
I propose the following ranges of words for lists creations :
var ranges = [ [ '00001', '00200' ], // 1) 'List:Ibo/Most_used_words,_UNILEX_1:_words_00001_to_00200' [ '00201', '01000' ], // 2) 'List:Ibo/Most_used_words,_UNILEX_2:_words_00201_to_01000' [ '01001', '02000' ], // … [ '02001', '04000' ], // 4) <←——— 1st threshold [ '05001', '10000' ], // … [ '10001', '15000' ], // [ '15001', '20000' ], // [ '20001', '25000' ], // [ '25001', '30000' ], // 9) <←——— 2nd threshold [ '30001', '35000' ], // [ '35001', '40000' ], // [ '40001', '45000' ], // [ '45001', '50000' ] // ];
I willfully create a smooth ramp approach to onboard new comers. I tested, 200 is a nice balance while we start. It is gently ambitious and about 10 mins works. It typically the kind of list-size I was looking for demoing in IRL events, with new users. Then can do just 20 if they wish. But the length alone, 200, encourage to flow it forward and to try out the Lingualibre productive flow which appears after 20~30 words but requires 50 words to "see the power" of LinguaLibre.
As for the depth, I first though of a deal :
// `corpus-limit`: // - default: x = 6000; // - active: x = 30000 // - rule: if recordings > 2000 according to https://lingualibre.org/wiki/LinguaLibre:Stats, then `active`.
With that rule, our 17 most active languages get 30,000 words via 9 files. All others get 5,000 words via 4 files.
But after some though I'am wondering if this 5,000 first limit is too small. It allows good on-boarding, but then nothing. Waiting still a bit. Yug (talk) 22:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi everyone ! Unilex import has started, you may see it happen on recent bot edits or on Special:Contributions/Dragons_Bot. At the end :
- breath: 1001 languages will be covered
- type: with their frequency lists, from Unilex.
- amount: ~100 major languages (has iso639-2 in 2 character) will have by default a maximum of 30,000 words. Minor languages will have at maximum 6000 words.
Note: I noticed some errors after launching. Those will be fixed in my code and on Lingualibre.
These uploads are done using User:Kanasimi's Wikiapijs framework. :) Yug (talk) 10:15, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Imported list names ?
Done
- @Pamputt , I derivated from the IETF's column on the right a new `iso639-3` column on the left. These `iso639-3` will provide the
IsoinList:{Iso}/{Title}{range}. But I often didn't know what was the `iso639-3` versions so I kept the IETF tag (ceux avec les-). Could you review languages.js and share with me possible corrective indications ? Or is it ok if I use those ? (I don't think so, the record wizard will have difficulties finding them) Yug (talk) 22:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)- About two letters code, you can find the "equivalent" ISO 639-3 code using this Wikipedia page. For example, "ae-Latn" corresponds to "ave" on LinguaLibre. Pamputt (talk) 06:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I need to be sure I'am converting correctly from composite IETF into current conventions (iso639-3 right?). Thanks for the lead on `ave`, I will check those. I gathered below the list of items I'am confused by.
- About two letters code, you can find the "equivalent" ISO 639-3 code using this Wikipedia page. For example, "ae-Latn" corresponds to "ave" on LinguaLibre. Pamputt (talk) 06:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
{ 'iso639-3':'ave', file:'ae-Latn' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'be-tarask' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'blt-Latn' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'ca-valencia' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'ctd-Latn' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'el-Latn-u-sd-it75' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'gsw-u-sd-chag' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'gsw-u-sd-chbe' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'gsw-u-sd-chfr' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'kab-Arab' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'kab-Tfng' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'rm-puter' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'rm-rumgr' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'rm-surmiran' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'rm-sursilv' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'rm-sutsilv' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'rm-vallader' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'sr-Latn' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'vec-u-sd-itpd' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'vec-u-sd-itts' },
{ 'iso639-3':'', file:'vec-u-sd-itvr' },
- Do we have a naming convention for cases like
gsw,rmandvecwhich has several sub elements each ? Should I doList:{gsw}/u-sd-chag/{title}? I will return here later to complete all those I can. Yug (talk)- What I know is Lingua Libre uses ISO 639-3 to identify the language in the lists. So we should use pure ISO 639-3 to name the lists. Let us talk about
rmfor example, the ISO 639-3 code is "roh". The text after the hyphen is used to discriminate the dialects. On LinguaLibre, we can create list for a given dialect, but it should be named such as "List:Roh/Puter-namelist" or maybe "List:Roh/Puter/Namelist". I have not checked what is the behaviour of the list taht would be named following the last proposal. - The same remark applied for IETF code such as "kab-Arab". It that case, "Arab" is about the script. So we could name the list such as "List:Kab/Arab/namelist" for example. Pamputt (talk) 08:59, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's a more general question - how should the resulting recording files look like? For example
be-taraskis a standard Belarussian but written with Latin script instead of Cirillic. Still most Wiktionaries considers it a separate language (example: wikt:fr:Catégorie:biélorusse_(tarashkevitsa)). If the LiLi bot is supposed to attach the recordings properly, the language should have a separate ISO code in LiLi. You can't just put it as a version ofbel. But LiLi has only one Belarussian language code defined. sr-latinis a Latinized version of Serbian, but the French Wiktionary puts it in the same bag with Cyrillic: wikt:fr:Catégorie:serbe, in the Polish Wiktionary we allow only the Cyrillic script in Serbian, in English Wiktionary everything is together with Croatian as the Serbo-Croatian language. Total mess. A few other codes are also different script versions of standard languages.gsw-*, on the other hand, are various dialects of Swiss German. I believe they all are treated in Lingua Libre and Wiktionaries as dialects of German (deu). Perhaps codegswcould also be created here, but it isn't.rm-*are dialects of the Romansh language. LiLi treats them as one languageroh.- In general, if we want to have rare languages on board, they should be defined here first. It's not enough to make a list if you can't select proper language while recording. Maybe you should import only lists for the languages defined in LiLi? Olaf (talk) 09:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's a more general question - how should the resulting recording files look like? For example
- What I know is Lingua Libre uses ISO 639-3 to identify the language in the lists. So we should use pure ISO 639-3 to name the lists. Let us talk about
- Do we have a naming convention for cases like
- Special:RecordWizard's Step 3 :
Details(which should beListIMHO) does 2 things:- List picking: seems to load the list via a simple research by name. The list's name (and iso prefix) does NOT influences the recordings.
- « You record words in: {pick your language} » : this defined how the words's Qid will be tagged, imported to Commons, and categorized.
- You can load List:Mar/wiktionary, and pick the language Japanese. Then your recordings Qitems will be
iso639-3 = jpn. - So, for today case (list creation), I just need to have my list starting with recognizable
iso639-3so they show up properly. - The question of languages is a Wikidata/LanguageImporter issue.
- I'am cognitively tired of this past coding days so I will simply not upload those composite-names languages for now. But it stays a practical question with implications and side effects (wikidata, wiktionary) to kink about. Yug (talk) 21:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Special:RecordWizard's Step 3 :
Bot request for Catalan Witkionary
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- Example pages (3): ca:wikt:mariner, ca:wikt:activity, ca:wikt:fèr - You can see best audio integration there.
- Target section: There is no specific section. The audio file should be added under the language heading
== {{-xx-}} ==and before the first POS section. It should be added in a new line after pronuntiation templates, if any, either{{pron|xx|...}},{{pronafi|xx|...}}or{{xx-pron}}. In these templates xx means language code ISO 639-1 or ISO 639-3. - Local audio template(s) example(s):
{{àudio|en-us-activity.ogg|lang=en|accent=EUA}} - Local audio template(s) explained:
- {àudio} means "audio", and take the following parameters...
en-us-activity.oggis the filenamelang=enis the ISO 639-1 of the language.accent=EUAmeans USA which is the accent or local variant. This parameter is optional and it may be codified for Catalan as explained at ca:wikt:Template:àudio.
- Request by: Vriullop (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to Kanashimi & Cewbot !
Welcome to Cewbot and its bot master Kanashimi ! Kanashimi is the creator of Wikiapi.js (doc), a JS framework to create nodejs bots which edit Wikimedia's Wiki via API queries. I use this framework as well, so we are creating a little testing group and creating tools to ease juniors developers on-boarding. Yug (talk) 08:18, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. cewbot runs on several wikis, including enwiki. I think I may transfer some tasks already running on other wiki projects to Lingua Libre:
| Nickname | Definition | Helpfulness | Difficulty to code |
|---|---|---|---|
| Topic list | Add topic list to discussion pages including LinguaLibre:Chat room, LinguaLibre:Administrators' noticeboard, LinguaLibre:Technical board. Topic listed here is a sample. | ? | ? |
| Signature fixer. | On talk page, when signature is missing, add user's signature and date. | 2/4 | ? |
| Discussions archiver. | On defined pages marked by a category via template, when a section is inactive for n days, archive it. | 3/4 | ? |
| Anchors fixers. | Fixing broken anchors including those archived. | 2/4 | ? |
| Sandbox cleaner. | Periodically blanks LinguaLibre:Sandbox. | 1/4 | Easy |
| Welcome bot. | When user makes an edit be has an user_talk page empty, post {{subst:welcome|~~~~}} | 2/4 | Easy |
- How about these? --Kanashimi (talk) 09:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Kanashimi, we were asking for a welcome bot just 1 days prior !
- I added scores to your list in order of priority from my POV.
- If your codes are accessible on github, I will reuse those for my Wikiapi eggs ! Yug (talk) 12:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- The codes are on github. However some programs are not simple. --Kanashimi (talk) 12:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. It seems there are some discussions on going. Are there somebody interesting in the functions above? If allowing testing, please give some comments, thank you. --Kanashimi (talk) 21:59, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Draft bot
Done
Is there anywhere a piece of code showing how to connect a bot to Lingua Libre and how to retrieve a page. Or maybe someone can share such code? I think it would be very helpful to point to such "draft bot" that could be used as a skeleton for several tasks. Pamputt (talk) 18:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt I also started to look for a way to have a bot working here but couldn't find simple instructions. Poslovitch gave me some advice though, to build a bot working on the same base than LLBot (i.e. not based on Pywikibot). I can send you the info if you are interested. Best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 08:24, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- EDIT @Pamputt Thank you very much for phabricator:T286303! I will try to implement a Welcome bot soon and a bot similar to what Olafbot does (i.e. updating local lists), but based on Wikt categories (lists are easier to find a suggest to newcomers than wiki categories). All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 09:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
And so, using Pywikibot, a draft code would be:
- get a Mediawiki page
import pywikibot
site = pywikibot.Site('lingualibre','ligualibre')
page = pywikibot.Page(site, 'User:Example')
print(page.get()) #print the wikicode
- get a Wikibase element
import pywikibot
site = pywikibot.Site('lingualibre:lingualibre')
repo = site.data_repository() # the Wikibase repository for given site
item = pywikibot.ItemPage(repo, 'Q42') # a repository item
data = item.get() # get all item data from repository for this item
print(data) #print item content
Pamputt (talk) 13:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Using PAWS, I get a
UnknownFamilyError: Family lingualibre does not exist... EDIT: It is apparently due to PAWS updating pywikibot files with a delay, let's hope not too long! (and WMF team is apparently on holidays). Best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 14:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Log in to Lingua Libre for a bot
Done
While I started the support of Lingua Libre through Pywikibot, I think something is still missing because I do not manage to find how to log in to Lingua Libre so far. Pywikibot is usable to "read" Lingua Libre (get pages and items) but I cannot figure out yet how to write on Lingua Libre. Could someone please share a piece of code showing how their bot log in to Lingua Libre (@Yug & Olaf ). Pamputt (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt : share your terminal error message. If you code with pywikibot, a proven bot framework, it's likely your code, maybe the login which fails. Questions :
- which account is your bot ?
- Do you login using a) human-friendly username and password or b) did you go through Special:BotPasswords ?
- to which base url api do you connect ? For me using WikiapiJS : https://lingualibre.org/api.php. (Not https://www.lingualibre.org/api.php which partially redirects to https://lingualibre.org/api.php)
- As for Pywikibot-speciffic code sample, I think mw:Manual:Pywikibot/Use_on_third-party_wikis and nearby pages may help. Yug (talk) 09:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Yug actually Pywikibot is a proven bot framework but I am not aware of any other supported wiki that works like Lingua LIbre (log in through Wikimedia Commons using OAuth). So the problem is PWB does not manage to connect to LinguaLibre (I will send the log of "python pwb.py login -v -debug" later if it can help). Because I proposed a patch to PWB to support LinguaLibre, something may be missing (getting page works, modifying or creating page does not work). That is why I am interesting to know the line of code related to WikiapiJS that you use. Pamputt (talk) 11:17, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- To reply to your questions, my bot is PamputtBot and currently I try to log in via password given in the terminal. Pamputt (talk) 11:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamputt , still unable to edit ?
- In my case Lingualibre's Special:BotPasswords gives me something like that :
- user: 'Dragons Bot@Dragons_Bot'
- pass: 'ueuh9er9qe7rteqr8t0qe9roeatmi2fb'
- I also met some issues login in... and I had to use my mouse to log in online into that "Dragons_bot" account, you know, and to confirm on Commons. I went over this quickly and without thinking, but maybe the Oath on commons should also be activated ?? Yug (talk) 17:38, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Yug yess, still unable to edit. Here is the output of "python pwb.py login -v" (I tried to log in with Pamputt using PWB)
Python 3.8.9 (default, Apr 5 2021, 18:09:13)
[GCC 10.2.1 20210130]
Found 1 lingualibre:lingualibre processes running, including this one.
WARNING: No user is logged in on site lingualibre:lingualibre
Password for user Pamputt on lingualibre:lingualibre (no characters will be shown):
Logging in to lingualibre:lingualibre as Pamputt
WARNING: API warning (main): Unrecognized parameters: username, password.
ERROR: Login failed (FAIL).
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/pamputt/bot/core/pywikibot/login.py", line 307, in login
self.login_to_site()
File "/home/pamputt/bot/core/pywikibot/data/api.py", line 2968, in login_to_site
raise pywikibot.exceptions.APIError(code=status, info=fail_reason)
pywikibot.exceptions.APIError: FAIL: The supplied credentials could not be authenticated.
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "pwb.py", line 399, in <module>
if not main():
File "pwb.py", line 391, in main
run_python_file(filename,
File "pwb.py", line 106, in run_python_file
exec(compile(source, filename, 'exec', dont_inherit=True),
File "./scripts/login.py", line 151, in <module>
main()
File "./scripts/login.py", line 139, in main
site.login(autocreate=autocreate)
File "/home/pamputt/bot/core/pywikibot/site/_apisite.py", line 390, in login
if login_manager.login(retry=True, autocreate=autocreate):
File "/home/pamputt/bot/core/pywikibot/login.py", line 316, in login
raise NoUsernameError(error_msg)
pywikibot.exceptions.NoUsernameError: Username "Pamputt" does not have read permissions on lingualibre:lingualibre
.The supplied credentials could not be authenticated.- The interesting line is "WARNING: API warning (main): Unrecognized parameters: username, password.". Indeed, if we look at https://lingualibre.org/api.php?action=query&meta=authmanagerinfo&amirequestsfor=login, we can see
- "canauthenticatenow": "",
- which means (AFAIK) that it is not possible to log in directly through the API. This is why we can only log in though Wikimedia Commons using OAuth.
- So I am still looking for a reliable way (and reproducible way) to log in to Lingua Libre. If I find it, I will document it but if someong can document it before, he/she will be very welcome. Pamputt (talk) 19:13, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I finally figured out how to log in to Lingua Libre using Pywikibot and Special:BotPasswords (this is the only way). I have created Help:Log in to Lingua Libre with Pywikibot to document it. Pamputt (talk) 18:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Tag misleading items
Done
Now I am able to edit with PamputtBot, I have started to tag recording item that have an issue. See for example uncio (Q53462). At the end, I plan to tag all recordings listed in LinguaLibre:Misleading items. Pamputt (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, PamputtBot is ready to tag all recordings that have an issue and that are listed here. I tested the bot on all recordings listed in LinguaLibre:Misleading items/Lepticed7 20181219. Could you validate that it makes sense to do so and please report if you see any weird stuff. If all is ok, I will run the bot on all the other recordings listed over there. Pamputt (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Welcome bot
Hi @Pamputt, Yug, Poslovitch, & Olaf
Have you heard of this welcoming script for Pywikibots? I think it would be valuable to have a bot welcoming new users with the {{Welcome}} template and adding a signature from a list of volunteers (for the moment, most of the welcoming is done by Pamputt and I). I am thinking about this because we will probably have a lot of newcomers related to Wikimania (in a couple of weeks).
I wanted to make this bot myself using PAWS, but it is not working on LiLi for the moment... @Pamputt, now that you managed to have a functional bot operating on LiLi, maybe you are able to add this task to your bot?
All the best, — WikiLucas (🖋️) 22:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, yes, it could be interesing to use the welcome script from Pywikibot. Unforutnately, I do not manage to log in anymore (I do not know why so far). So once I will solve this issue, why not. I could run the bot on Toolforge (I already have an account). Pamputt (talk) 21:07, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- My bot is working again Pamputt (talk) 11:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- I've looked at the welcome script from Pywikibot. Actually it is rather heavy and it needs a patch to be able to work here. Especially, the following variables have to be defined for Lingua Libre
- "logbook", the page where the bot will save the log (see French Wikipedia for example)
- "netext": the text for the welcome message ({{subst:welcome|%s}})
- "report_pag": the page where the bot will report users with a possibly bad username
- "bad_pag": the page where the bot reads the real-time bad words page (optional)
- ...
- So before going ahead, I think we need a clear consensus to go further. To me, I think we can manage without using such bot ut I am not against using a bot. Pamputt (talk) 18:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- I've looked at the welcome script from Pywikibot. Actually it is rather heavy and it needs a patch to be able to work here. Especially, the following variables have to be defined for Lingua Libre
Bot for lexemes broken?
The contributions I made on June 12 was added as usual. On July 18 and 19 I used the exact same method (SPARQL query) and none of these has been added to lexemes on Wikidata yet. Ainali (talk) 13:17, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Ainali for reported this issue. I have opened a Phabricator ticket to track this issue. Pamputt (talk) 08:15, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Bot request for Ukrainian witkionary
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- Example pages: uk:wikt:Аахен, uk:wikt:послідовність, uk:wikt:послідовність - You can see audio integrations there.
- Target section: the audio file should be added at the
=== Вимова ===section, which means Pronunciation. It should be put afterTemplate:TranscriptionorTemplate:Transcriptions, there is also variants with language code E.G.Template:Transcription-ukthey automatically create IPA but it can be just put at the end of the section - Local audio template(s) example(s):
Template:Audio2 - Local audio template(s) explained:
Uk-лихо.oggis the filenameпрослухати вимовуmeans Listen Pronunciation. Here you can also put dialect or location of speaker in ()
- Summary text: Додано приклад вимови.
- Here you can left request for adding bot: uk:wikt:Вікісловник:Боти
- Request by: Bicolino34 (talk) 14:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Bicolino34 I can start to work for Ukrainian Wiktionary support for LLBot but there is first the Catalan Wiktionary to be managed. Meanhile, could you start a discussion on your wiki so that we are sure your community accept LLbot adds audio pronunciation in the future? Pamputt (talk) 15:21, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Creating a bot : list of steps
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- Right side: the list of steps is reused into a convenient progress template.
- In {{Bot cycle}}: the page can documents in details those best practice steps.
Hello all, we are still testing how to walk forward with the deployment of LinguaLibre bots on various wikis. On Github, Pamputt seemed to refer to some best practices to land our bot on a target wiki kindly. It's wise, and seems smart to write this down. So let's create a {{Bot cycle}} template to view the steps for a bot from request to implementation. We can have both a "Best practices" page and a right-side template to display efficiently where we are at, and what we should do next for a given bot. I'am starting the thing, feel free to edit, rename, etc. Yug (talk)