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[[User:Awangba Mangang|Awangba Mangang]] ([[User talk:Awangba Mangang|talk]]) 12:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 
[[User:Awangba Mangang|Awangba Mangang]] ([[User talk:Awangba Mangang|talk]]) 12:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 
:{{ping|Awangba Mangang}} Okay thank you for letting me know, I'll try to correct this. While I do this, would you like to [[Special:MyLanguage/Help:Create_your_own_lists|create a list]] in your own language, and then maybe to record it? 🙂 — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 
:{{ping|Awangba Mangang}} Okay thank you for letting me know, I'll try to correct this. While I do this, would you like to [[Special:MyLanguage/Help:Create_your_own_lists|create a list]] in your own language, and then maybe to record it? 🙂 — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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:{{done}} — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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==J'ai besoin de ton avis==
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Salut Lucas !
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{{GT|Nous avons déjà parlé dans ce projet. J'ai besoin de ton avis. Lequel des administrateurs du projet fr.wiktoionary a du sens d'écrire à, afin qu'ils prêtent attention au problème suivant:}}
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{{GT|Le RfC récemment ouvert, qui soulève à nouveau des questions sur le droit d'auteur, décrit une situation qui peut être directement considérée comme}}
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* {{GT|prétendre qu'un article de votre sous-projet viole le droit d'auteur}} - https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Shakespeare
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* {{GT|si un article a été supprimé dans un sous-projet pour lequel le RFC est ouvert, alors à l'avenir on peut s'attendre à ce que cet article de fr.wiktoionary sous-projet doive être supprimé sur la base de ce précédent}}
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{{GT|Section RfC décrivant le "cas Shakespeare"}} - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/I_need_to_solve_the_problem_that_I_consider_important_in_the_eo.wiktionary.org_project#Shakespeare-1
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{{GT|Je crois personnellement que je suis obligé d'informer quelqu'un de l'administration de fr.wiktoionaryvotre sous-projet à propos d'un tel événement. Et il serait également utile qu'une personne expérimentée en droit d'auteur se prononce sur fr.wiktoionary projet. Cette question s'applique à tous les sous-projets de Wiktionnaire, quelle que soit la langue. Nous sommes tous connectés à la fois par un projet commun et des liens intersites (InterWiki).}}
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{{GT|Ou vous allez vous-même transmettre mes informations.}}
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{{GT|Заранее благодарю.}} [[User:Vami|Va]] [[User talk:Vami|(🖋️)]] 08:36, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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:{{GT|Bonjour}}{{ping|Vami}}. {{GT|Merci pour ton message, mais je ne suis pas administrateur sur le Wiktionary francophone}}. {{GT|J'ai parlé avec quelques administrateurs, qui sont informés du problème, mais tu peux poster un message sur la Wikidémie si tu souhaites commencer une discussion sur le Wiktionary francophone.}} [https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Wikid%C3%A9mie Wikidémie].
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:{{GT|Cordialement}} — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 12:06, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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::Bonjour, {{ping|WikiLucas00}}! {{GT|Bon, je ne suis pas prêt à poser un problème pour une discussion générale en français - j'utilise un traducteur automatique.}}
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::{{GT|Mais dans la communication personnelle, ce n'est pas si critique. Pouvez-vous me présenter les personnes avec qui vous avez communiqué ? Il est seulement nécessaire d'exprimer un avis sur plusieurs questions au sein du RFC, auxquelles j'ai donné un lien.}} [[User:Vami|Va]] [[User talk:Vami|(🖋️)]] 18:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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== Referent user ==
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:''See [[LinguaLibre:Roles#Organizing_events]].''
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Hello Lucas, I cited Adélaïde, Emma and yourself as reference users for contributors with experience on institutional event building (Contribuling). It implies that other users may contact us for light guidance, feedback on your personal experience in this matter, where support can be found, etc. Is that ok for you ? Best regards, [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 10:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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== {Autopatrolled}==
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Hello Lucas, I noticed this Autopatrolled template used on [[User talk:Azerbaijani audiorecordings]], nice. Do you have an idea of the overall situation around '''ratelimit in past months''' ? Are you alone to handle it ? Is there a solid monitoring and user support for this aspect ? Does this issue needs care ? I need to catch up. ​[[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 09:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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:(As of now, what I do is to open the [https://lingualibre.org/index.php?hidebots=1&translations=filter&hideWikibase=1&namespace=0&invert=1&limit=1000&days=30&enhanced=1&title=Special:RecentChanges&urlversion=2 Recent changes (non-audio)], search for "remote", then if I see an user with upload between 380~430 (and a red userpage), I go to [[:commons:Commons:Requests_for_rights#Autopatrol]] and fill a request for that user. Then I message that user about it on its LL's user_talk page. Note: Messaging on Commons could be better actually... I did a full review today, reviewviewing November 14-19th.  [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 10:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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::Salut {{ping|Yug}}. C'est une bonne idée mais je préfère travailler au cas par cas pour ces demandes, parce qu'une personne faisant une session de 380 enregistrements n'a pas forcément besoin du rôle si elle ne compte pas contribuer intensivement par la suite. Aussi, dans plusieurs cas, les comptes sont créés uniquement pour contribuer à Lingua Libre. Demander le droit autopatrolled pour tous ces utilisateurs qui n'en ont pas besoin risque de nous attirer les critiques (puis potentiellement les refus) de la communauté de Commons. Je préfère cibler des utilisateurs actifs sur d'autres wikis (une preuve de sérieux pour la communauté de Commons), qui ont réalisé au moins 700 enregistrements LiLi (environ 2 sessions bridées) et qui comptent continuer à contribuer intensivement. {{ping|Pamputt}} tu en penses quoi ? — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 00:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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:::Je vois, merci pour ce tour. Je prends note. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 08:01, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Promotion of Lingua Libre on blogs, social media, etc. ==
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It is extremely necessary to promote Lingua Libre on blogs and social media to increase the number of contributors.
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An efficient way would be to ask bloggers of the Linux / FOSS community to write reviews about Lingua Libre to create awareness about the Project.
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For example, the website "[https://itsfoss.com/ It's FOSS]" has a huge number of readers. If they publish an article about Lingua Libre it would benefit the project providing feedback and also attracting new users. Of course, the reviews should be unbiased and voluntary (non paid). I just wrote to "It's FOSS" asking them to review LinguaLibre. Could you please help and also contact them ?  [[User:Marreromarco|Marreromarco]] ([[User talk:Marreromarco|talk]]) 17:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Marreromarco|WikiLucas00}} Absolutely. We currently lack human resources in those fields (outreach, communication), that's just this. Generally speaking, I'am writing down a [[LinguaLibre:Roles]] page to define useful roles for LinguaLibre, so we can call for new contributors to jump in, they take on roles according to their skills and interests, and roll forward. We start to have small task forces for:
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:* coding bots (Poslovitch, Olaf, Pamputt, myself?)
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:* maintenance & inward community (Pamputt, WikiLucas, myself)
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:* workshops (WikiLucas, Lyokoï, Eavq)
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:* recording per language...
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:But we would benefit a LOT from other small teams (1~3), most notably leading on outreach and communication, yes. Marreromarco, would you like to expand [[LinguaLibre:Roles#Outreach_for_awareness]] with your ideas ? It could prove useful to first gather those ideas there, and eventually, based on it, to lead a weekend online "hackathon" on outreach & communication. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 08:09, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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== On site Workshop ==
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Hello WikiLucas, as you know I gather typical [[LinguaLibre:Workshops|workshop formats]] and [[LinguaLibre:Roles|contributor roles]] on two wikipages. I need your help to write [[LinguaLibre:Workshops#On site workshop]]. My experience is rather in presentations or unformal demos. Your and Eavq's experience at INALCO presents an interesting, in-institution format worth reporting briefly, in a positive light, so it init similar projects elsewhere. I can write a draft but since I wasn't there It will then need a deep review afterward. Would you like to help write this section ? Which approach do you prefer ? [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 11:04, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Re: Suffixes ==
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Thanks for letting me know. I will take a look. [[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 17:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Problème enregistrement en finnois ==
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Salut,
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Pendant le week-end, je continue de faire des requêtes SPARQL autour de LinguaLibre (avec l'aide de {{ping|Nikki}}) et là vois qu'il y a 1111 enregistrements en finnois que tu as fait et qui sont du français (j'ai regardé côté Commons, j'ai l'impression que la plupart des fichiers ont été supprimés mais dans le doute je te le signale, il faudrait au moins supprimer les fichiers).
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Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 08:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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:{{ping|VIGNERON}}, tu peux donner la requête permettant de trouver ces enregistrements ? Je peux essayer de me remotiver pour finir mon bot de maintenance pour ce genre de cas. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 08:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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::{{ping|Pamputt}} ooups oui évidemment, là voilà :
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<syntaxhighlight lang="sparql">
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PREFIX ll: <https://lingualibre.org/entity/>
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PREFIX llt: <https://lingualibre.org/prop/direct/>
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select * {
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  ?e llt:P4 ll:Q33; #langue = finnois
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    llt:P7 ?transcription;
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    llt:P5 ll:Q102123. #locuteur = WikiLucas00
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} order by ?transcription
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</syntaxhighlight>
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::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 09:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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:::Salut {{ping|VIGNERON}} et merci pour le ping. En effet, j'avais fait environ 1111 enregistrements dans la mauvaise langue, que j'avais par la suite enregistrés en français (et les fichiers ne pouvant donc pas être renommés, je les avais tous faits supprimer il me semble). En revanche, c'est vrai que les éléments Lingua Libre correspondant n'avaient pas été supprimés. Bien à toi — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 13:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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== Re: French list ==
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I'm sorry, the tool server of the Polish Wikimedia chapter, which hosts my bot, is currently in maintenance mode, and for a moment I'm starting the bot manually from home, and the frequency is about one day. Sorry for the inconvenience, it should be fixed soon. [[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 21:01, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Olaf}} no worries, I was just wondering if you were aware of it. There is no rush, let's wait for the server to be fixed 🙂 All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 13:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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== Add a New Language  ==
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Hi WikiLucas00, nice to meet you, I would like to know if it´s possible to add a new language, in this case I would like to add Spanish language. In case that its possible I would like to know how to do it. Thank you!!![[User:MAT.MHACCV|MAT.MHACCV]] ([[User talk:MAT.MHACCV|MAT.MHACCV]])
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:Ola [[User:MAT.MHACCV|MAT.MHACCV]], Spanish is already here. So you should be able to record word in Spanish already. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 11:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
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== Request- Add new Language for  a Indian Script==
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Brahmi is a Indian Ancient script used Northern India to Southern India. My kindly request to you, please add Brahmi in lingua libre. I think script language is allowed?.
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Wikidata :[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q185083 Brahmi (Q185083)] Thank You --[[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 10:34, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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:Hello {{ping|Sriveenkat}} and welcome to Lingua Libre. According to wikidata and wikipedia, Brahmi is a script, i.e. a way of writing some languages. We accept all sort of scripts and alphabets on Lingua Libre as long as they are compatible with Unicode. You should feel free to use Brahmi script to record words in a language, as long as it is effectively a script used by some speakers of this language. What language would you like to record? It seems that Brahmi script is not only used in one specific language. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have other questions or problems. All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 21:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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::I like to record in Tamil brahmi. What I do to record in Tamil brahmi? I think record in Tamil language in Record Wizard Iam correct please clarify Thank you--[[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 04:11, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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:::{{ping|Sriveenkat}} Tamil is already available in Lingua Libre, so you can choose Tamil in the record wizard, and type words in Tamil using Brahmi script in the record wizard. Keep it mind that they will be stored on Wikimedia Commons with the word in their filename (so Tamil people who can't read Brahmi might not be able to find them easily). I really don't know much about this language and this script, so you will have to make the choice yourself between Brahmi script and [[w:Tamil script]], depending on your goals with your recordings. Maybe you should know that you can add information between parentheses in the record wizard, which means you could also add words like this (without the quotes):
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:::"word-in-Brahmi-script  (word-in-Tamil-script)"
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:::or this "word-in-Tamil-script (word-in-Brahmi-script)".
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:::I hope it helped, please keep me posted on what you decided 🙂 — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 07:04, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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::::Thank You, I will choose Tamil in Record Wizard and record in Tamil Brahmi.  I type in List of words to record like "brahmi(tamil)" "𑀅 (அ)" But Brahmi Script used for most indian languages Example: See this [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%91%80%86 𑀆] is a alphabet I can't choose tamil, hindi and any other languages in record wizard. Some brahmi pronunciations same for all languages. So I think better to create separate script. Thanks for your kind support thank you.--[[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 07:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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::::: Iam Sorry you said correct. Dont Create Seprate Script for Brahmi. We can create separate languages separate audio files. Like: Tamil Brahmi- 𑀅 (அ)--[[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 08:20, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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:::::I tried to Record in tamil brahmi cannot upload to Commons What to do? I don't know how to solve I think Tamil only support tamil unicode block? 🤔. I don't know please help I wait for reply thank you--[[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 08:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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:::::: About the Wikimedia Commons upload issue, could you try to record a word in Tamil (with Tamil script) and upload it. I am pretty sure this upload issue is not related to the script that you use. Maybe {{u|Hugo en résidence}} (cc {{u|Yug}}) have an idea about this Commons issue. [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|talk]]) 07:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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Hi,{{ping|Pamputt}} I recorded in tamil with tamil script is properly uploaded to Wikimedia Commons See this [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LL-Q5885_(tam)-Sriveenkat-%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D.wav Uploaded file using Tamil script]. But I record in tamil using brahmi script is not upload in commons. Thanks [[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 08:41, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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:{{u|Sriveenkat}}, happy to help if I can. Were you previously able to upload '''images files''' named with that Brahmi script to Wikimedia commons ? Such as <code>{your character}.png</code> ?
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:{{u|Pamputt}}, could it be [[:phab:T297351]] again ? [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 20:46, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
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::Hi,@{{u|Yug}} I tried today to a upload image using brahmi characters Filename "Tamil brahmi 𑁱.png" unable to Upload in Wikimedia Commons. Error:''Please choose a different, descriptive title (more info).'' Thanks for your help. [[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 04:31, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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:::Hello {{u|Sriveenkat}}, thank you for your tests. So it's indeed a lesser known issue on commons. Pamputt added your usecase (Brahmi script) to [[:phab:T297351]]. It's all we can do, up to Commons developers to change the settings. [[User:Hugo en résidence|Hugo en résidence]] ([[User talk:Hugo en résidence|talk]]) 10:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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::::{{u|Hugo en résidence}} Thank you! [[User:Sriveenkat|Sriveenkat (🎤) ]] ([[User talk:Sriveenkat|talk]]) 10:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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== Duplicata ==
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Hello [[USer:WikiLucas00]]. (1) It seems a duplicate language appeared : [[Q217]] and [[Q921606]], it may need to merge. See [[Help:SPARQL_for_maintenance#.E2.9C.85_Languages_.E2.86.92_duplicata_by_Wikidata_ID]]. (2) Ideally but it can be done in a later time, we need to check if any user and any audio used this Qid. There is some SPARQL queries on that same help page for that. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 08:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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:I found the way : [[Special:MergeItems]]. We are good. I monitor this 3rd/4th splitted language. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 08:34, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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::Hello {{ping|Yug}}, thanks for the merge. I found the date when the duplicate was created, and it turns out it was because we did not find the existing one! see https://lingualibre.org/wiki/LinguaLibre:Events/2023_Wikimedia_Hackathon#Questions. Maybe we have other similar cases? All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 10:22, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::The SPARQL_for_maintenance has a query which lists all language item with similar wikidata value. We have to monitor this query's results. Right now, thank to my merge, no language are duplications. Only some recordings ([[Help:SPARQL_for_maintenance#Counts|~600, divided into 6+ groups]]) have some corrupted data.
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:::Overall, in the past week, to ensure we had correct statistics for recordings and languages, I coded a bunch of SPARQL queries expanding [[Help:SPARQL_for_maintenance]] to visualize all data corruptions on recordings, speakers and languages. We can now see those. Next stept is to fix those using a bot. But tbh I won't be active this year on that side since my weekends are all taken by an IRL project. I still can  do small 1~2hours pushes tho.[[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Hugo en résidence|talk]]) 09:21, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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== Map ==
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See [[LinguaLibre_talk:Stats/Speakers#Map_query]]. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 09:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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== Dysfonctionnements ==
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Bonjour WikiLucas00. J'enregistre des fichiers, et tout se passe très bien jusqu'à aujourd'hui, où leur téléversement ne fonctionne pas, je relance mais ça ne fonctionne pas, et je ne comprends pas d'où peut venir le problème. J'ai aussi remarqué que Lingua Libre Bot est inactif depuis le 26 novembre, date approximative à laquelle également les statistiques ont cessé d'être mises à jour. Cordialement, [[User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick|Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick]] ([[User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick|talk]]) 15:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Bonjour {{ping|User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick}} et merci d'avoir signalé ce problème. J'ai prévenu sur Discord {{ping|Michael Barbereau WMFr}}, que je notifie ici aussi par principe. J'espère que ce n'est pas trop grave, il me semble que c'est un problème de BlazeGraph qu'on a déjà eu. À bientôt — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 18:34, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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::Bonjour [[User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick|Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick]].
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::En terme de code le studio d'enregistrements et ses uploads, les statistiques, et le bots sont 3 aspects distincts, je les traiterai donc tour à tour:
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::# {{done|}} Coté studio, nous observons que les enregistrements incluant [[Special:Contributions/Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick|vos contributions]] avancent normalement.
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::# {{ongoing|}} Pour les statistiques, c'est ce sont des requêtes SPARQLs sur Lingualibre. Lingualibre grossis vite, à un moment les requêtes pourraient crasher. Les requêtes SPARQL de plus de 60s sont à risque. Pourriez vous être plus précis sur la page statistique qui ne progresse plus ?
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::# {{ongoing|}} Pour [[:meta:User:Lingua Libre Bot]], j'observe également [https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Lingua+Libre+Bot ici] la fin des contributions le 26 Novembre. WikiLucas à eu le bon réflexe en contactant Michael.
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::Point interessant, le robot faisant également des requêtes sur SPARQL, les point 2 et 3 sont peut être liés. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 16:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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:::Bonjour.
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:::# Les téléversements ne fonctionnaient pas ce vendredi premier décembre, mais il ont refonctionné à partir d'hier.
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:::# C'est [https://lingualibre.org/wiki/LinguaLibre:Stats/Speakers/fr cette page].
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:::# En effet, l'activité du robot a cessé le 26 novembre.
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:::Merci. [[User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick|Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick]] ([[User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick|talk]]) 22:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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::::Merci pour l'oeil de Lynx, je remarque à présent que [[LinguaLibre:Stats]] est à 1,099,697 enregistrements depuis environ une semaine. Poslovitch a confirmé sur Discord que le Blazegraphs, càd le clone des données nous permettant de faire les requêtes statistique et de répondre à [[:meta:User:Lingua Libre Bot]], est à terre. Ça nous arrive occasionellement, environ une fois par an. Cela n'affecte pas les opérations d'enregistrement. La personne compétente est prévenue. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 14:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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== New language request, the rest of the Ugric languages ==
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Hi! Nice to meet you!
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I would like to ask that, Khanty and Mansi should be added as languages. Sadly the internet lacks native speakers, maybe this will draw in some with luck.
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I am not a native speaker of either of these languages, though I am heavily learning Mansis Northern dialect.
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The ISO639-3 code for Mansi is '''mns''' and for Khanty is '''kca'''.
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--[[User:Ewithu|Ewithu]] ([[User talk:Ewithu|talk]]) 20:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Hi {{ping|Ewithu}} and thank you for your message. It would indeed be nice to add those languages, unfortunately the tool that we use to import them from Wikidata seems broken, as I just tried. Let me warn {{ping|Poslovitch|Yug|Pamputt}}, to check if they are aware of this.
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:All the best — '''[[User:WikiLucas00|WikiLucas]]''' [[User talk:WikiLucas00|(🖋️)]] 01:14, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::Been so for 6 months or so, I wasn't able to fix it quickly but it should be in the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-LinguaImporter.js]], which you can find in the [[Template:Technicals]] shown below.
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::I created recent languages such as Occitan whistled by hands. [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 10:54, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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INaLCO

All good ? Yug (talk) 17:27, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, everything went pretty well, we had a very varied group of participants, speaking many various languages as you may have seen. I can't wait to see how many of these new contributors will carry on in the long term 🙂 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 17:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Thinking back, was any user immediately retained and active ?
It may need a year or two for for the info to spread and sink in. (Like for the Indian community : first contact was 2017. First real activity was 2020.)
It's part of the game. But I wonder if we had a positive surprise with this INALCO workshop. Yug (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Note de la dernière réunion

Salut WikiLucas00, je n'ai pas retrouvé où est ce qu'on a stocké les notes des précédentes réunions Lingua Libre mais il y en a néanmoins quelques-une ici (exemple). Je n'étais pas à la dernière réunion mais je pense qu'on devrait néanmoins recopier les notes de cette réunion ici pour archivage (il est d'ailleurs question de cela dans le pad (ligne 207)). Ca te va te faire ça ici plutôt que sur Meta ? Pamputt (talk) 22:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Salut @Pamputt bonne idée d'archiver les prises de notes sur LiLi, je vais organiser ça — WikiLucas (🖋️) 10:29, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Re: J'ai rangé les réunions de ce type dans LinguaLibre:Réunions puisqu'elles sont francophones. J'ai mis en forme la réunion du 4 décembre ici : LinguaLibre:Réunions/2020/4-12. — WikiLucas (🖋️) 14:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

{{Userbox-records}}

Hello Lucas,
I give it a week to calm things down and do minor tests... but after that I suggest we push strongly for those userboxes. The categories it will build will be a first stone to create per-language communities, aka "Portals/Project" pages. Yug (talk) 15:24, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Yug
Thank you for this very good initiative! I've started to paste it on the pages of new users who actually made at least one recording. It is good to also create the associated Category page, so that every speaker of a language can find others. I just corrected a small mistake in the templates. See you! — WikiLucas (🖋️) 13:06, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Nice, thanks for jumping in. ;) Yug (talk) 14:52, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Also, a shorter version works on userpages using magic word {ROOTPAGENAME}. See diff. Yug (talk) 15:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Also, for portals, your {{Colored box}} will come handy ! Yug (talk) 15:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Emergence of local communities ?

Some indian users will manage the tagging of Indian contributors from now on. Better for local community building. ;) Yug (talk) 02:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Same for Polish. It's a bit early for this community tho. Should we encourage the crystallization of local community and leader or leave these individuals alone since they contribute smoothly as of now ? Yug (talk) 14:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

J'ai cassé le Technical Board/intro

Bonjour,

Désolé de te tomber dessus comme ça : je ne comprenais pas pourquoi ma modification sur Technical Board/intro/text n'était pas affichée, puis j'ai vu que Technical Board/intro redirigeait vers Technical Board/intro/lang. Et en corrigeant cette "redirection" incorrecte, j'ai des balises "translate" qui sont apparues de partout :/ Je ne suis clairement pas un expert avec cette histoire de "traduction". Y a-t-il des ressources où je peux apprendre comment ça fonctionne ? Et, en attendant, pourrais-tu, s'il te plaît, réparer ma bêtise ? J'ai fait toutes mes modifications sur /text. Faut-il que je les recopie systématiquement sur /lang ?

Merci d'avance, et mes sincères excuses. --Poslovitch (talk) 23:03, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Poslovitch j'ai corrigé. Je vais supprimé Technical Board/intro/lang. Pamputt (talk) 09:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Merci <3 ! --Poslovitch (talk) 14:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi there. I tried to add content but it doesn't work. See LinguaLibre:Technical_board/intro/text. I do so my editing this page the classical way. Yug (talk) 13:09, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Salut @Yug Comme tu peux le lire deux fois dans l'historique de la page, il ne faut pas ajouter ou modifier soi-même les balises qui numérotent les sections de la page. L'extension de traduction numérote elle-même les sections, et changer leur numéro provoque des problèmes. Merci de faire attention par la suite 😉 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 13:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Avez pas vu... ;___; Yug (talk) 13:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Pas grave haha, mais laisse-moi quelques minutes pour revert ces changements tout en gardant les changements textuels, avant de marquer la page pour traduction — WikiLucas (🖋️) 13:50, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Check-green.svg DoneWikiLucas (🖋️) 14:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Comment éditer la source ? C'est une page en travaux et à développer. Yug (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
  • En ajoutant tes modifications textuelles classiquement, et en ajoutant simplement une balise translate ouvrante au début de la zone à traduire, et une fermante à la fin de cette zone (comme dans cette modification par Poslovitch par exemple).
    Je vois que cette page bouge beaucoup et que les traductions compliquent les choses. Je te pose donc la question que je t'avais déjà posée en privé ; est-ce que cette page a vraiment besoin d'être traduite ? Si non, on peut supprimer toutes les balises de traduction pour ne garder que l'anglais (qui convient aux développeurs qui liront la page), et ça sera plus pratique à éditer au quotidien. — WikiLucas (🖋️) 01:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello, je découvre comme tu le vois la mise en place de page multilingue (récupérée du modèle Welcome), ce qui est en fait compliqué lorsqu'on débute. Il est génant pour moi de répondre sur ta question de traductions dans la mesure où je découvre cette outil. Mon objectif personnel, en tout cas, est de créer une mouture en anglais, au cours de cette semaine. C'est la raison pour laquelle j'ai aposé le bandeau {{Draft}}. Présentement, la page anglaise que j'ai initié et que je co-construis n'est pas achevée. Je ne m'engagerai pas à faire des traductions mais libre à d'autres de traduire si ils le souhaitent : « ceux qui font décident ». L'option est présentement laissé à ceux qui souhaitent traduire et qui maitrise l'outil. Yug (talk) 19:50, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Je ne pense pas avoir l'expérience nécessaire pour juger l'utilité vs cout de cette outils sur cette page. J'ai copié {Welcome} "tel quel", supprimé les phrases, et collé les miennes. Yug (talk) 19:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello Yug, pas de soucis, j'ai aussi eu quelques déboires avec ce système quand j'ai participé à la mise en place du modèle de bienvenue, c'est Pamputt qui m'avait alors aidé (et Poslovitch non plus n'a pas réussi à prendre en main l'outil du premier coup - outil qui n'est donc visiblement intuitif pour personne !). Je pense personnellement que pour la page en question, un simple bandeau en anglais uniquement suffirait, et permettrait aux contributeurs de la page d'avancer plus vite en mettant à jour le texte sans se soucier des traductions.
Qu'en pensez-vous @Pamputt & Poslovitch  ?
WikiLucas (🖋️) 22:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Contentons-nous du bandeau en anglais. En revanche, je pense que ce serait intéressant de "développer" l'idée des "Flash Technical News". Ca pourrait devenir un outil intéressant, encore plus s'il est traduit. Y aurait moyen de "l'inclure", depuis une autre page ? Genre LinguaLibre:Technical news, qui ne contiendrait que ces "news techniques rapides", sous forme de liste (comme actuellement) ? --Poslovitch (talk) 22:52, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Anglais uniquement donc, au moins pour le moment. Si qqu'un pousse activement pour des langues supplémentaires on pourra aviser. A noté : nous avons un contributeur Svenska (SWE) tres enthousiaste à coordonner.
Le principe d'encart flash new est interessant oui. Elle pourrait etre modularisé en template oui. Yug (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Lexique 3.83

Hello WikiLucas,
I'am re-exploring UNILEX. As I asked UNILEX about opening up their license I got surprised to see they do know Wikidata Lexeme. I also bumped again into Lexique 3.83.

It's a long term thing, but one day, there will be the need to migrate as much of these lexical data as possible to Wikidata Lexeme. That can be material for TAL mission either for them, or funded by a meta:Grants:Project or by Wikidata Germany. I don't know under which shape and who, but there is a TAL/Wikidata collaboration to set up there. Yug (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

[‎Category:Speakers in {iso}]

Salut Lucas, t'embetes pas trop je vais passer avec un bot bientot. Yug (talk) 13:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


Unknown CSS in MediaWiki:Common.css

Hello Lucas, the first selector of this code looks suspicious to me. If something is missing from the translations, it could be due to this.

.mw-pt-translate-header, .mw-pt-translate-header ~ hr {
	display: none;
}

Yug (talk) 19:55, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Yug ,
Why is this selector suspicious to you exactly? And the translation extension is broken at a more core level, it's probably not CSS related but I'll look into this.
Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 04:45, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello VIGNERON. Why ? because 1) I noticed your messages of broken translation extension, and 2) we seen in recent review that 0x010C did hide some elements temporarily then did not restore them, .mw-pt-translate-header could be a similar case. I don't say it is, but I think WikiLucas, who is the leading user on translation extension, should be notified. Yug (talk) 08:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I'm not sure why 0x010C added this code last May but @Seb35 removed it just now. That said, there is still the other behind issue of Special:Translate to solve (phab:T280972). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Au sujet des enregistrements défectueux

Je vois que tu as ajouté une ligne dans la table des enregistrements défectueux de la Chat Room (yay!). Les chiffres ne semblent pas coller: "60 testés, 45 affectés, 15%": on s'attendrait à 75%, ou à 9 affectés, ou à 300 testés. @WikiLucas00 Julien Baley (talk) 06:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Bonjour @Julien Baley . En effet, ce sont 45 enregistrements défectueux sur 60, soit 75%. Je corrige, merci. — WikiLucas (🖋️) 12:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Enregistrement

Salut j'ai enregistré un mot mot en Sicilien et je voudrais savoir si j'ai tout bien fait.--Tenshi 98 (talk) 03:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Bonjour @Tenshi 98 Bienvenue et merci pour tes premiers enregistrements en sicilien ! 🙂 Je les ai écoutés, ils sont bien paramétrés (tu as bien écrit les mots dans l'orthographe de la langue et tu as bien sélectionné la bonne langue). Pour les prochains enregistrements, je te conseille d'utiliser un microphone externe (par exemple un micro d'écouteurs) afin d'avoir une meilleure qualité audio (+ d'informations sur cette page). Si tu enregistres sur un ordinateur, il est préférable d'utiliser Firefox pour éviter des problèmes audio liés à Chrome. Enfin, pour que tes enregistrements soient mieux décrits, tu peux compléter ton profil de locuteur sur cette page, en indiquant un lieu d'apprentissage pour chaque langue que tu parles (tu peux choisir une ville, ou même une région ou un pays).
PS: Si jamais tu souhaites enregistrer des mots dans une autre langue, tu peux tout à fait le faire, mais il faut bien faire attention de sélectionner la bonne langue à l'étape 3 (Détails)!
Bons enregistrements, n'hésite pas si tu as d'autres questions 🙂 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 15:16, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Re: Lemmas-without-audio-sorted-by-number-of-wiktionaries

Original post on Olaf's talk page - Hi @Olaf I hope you are doing well! I'm using your list quite often and I just realized that is not exactly a list of lemmas, rather a list of forms. For instance, I find more and more verbal inflections in your list in French, which are useful to cover but not always a priority. Would it be possible for you to create a similar list, but dedicated to real lemmas (i.e. in French: singular for nouns, sg. masculine for adjectives, infinitive tense for verbs)? I don't know if this issue only happens to your list in French or also in other languages (we seem to have digged deeper with French lemmas haha). All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 10:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Well, yes, in fact it is a list produced by counting article titles in various language versions of Wiktionary. While most Wiktionaries use almost exclusively lemmas, inflected forms happen sometimes. So at the beginning of each list there are only lemmas as they are most common, but when we go down long enough, there will be more and more inflected forms. You can't even call it "words" accurately, because sometimes there are longer phrases too. Certainly "lemmas" is better than "words" in one aspect - it's earlier in the alphabet, so the list is more likely to be visible in the Record Wizard. ;-) Olaf (talk) 21:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
@Olaf May I ask you for a complementary Olafbot list for French language? It would consist in the same list but filtered to only display elements that are part of this category (i.e. only real lemmas of French with no audio, without all inflexions). It would be very helpful to cover rapidly all frequent French lemmas on Wiktionaries. Thank you, all the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 19:01, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Tutoriel en vidéo, suggestion

Bonjour,

Vous avez publié un tutoriel en vidéo. À la fin, je lis « À vous de jouer ! ». Mieux serait : « À vous la parole ! » ou « À vous de parler ! ».

Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations WikiLucas00

Articolo50k.gif The 50,000 Barnstar
Hello WikiLucas00, congratulations on completing 50,000 pronunciation uploads on Wikimedia Commons. Thanks for your work to improve the project. --টিটো দত্ত (Titodutta) (কথা) 21:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much @Titodutta , this is very kind. All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 07:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Add South Levantine Arabic (ajp)

Hello, can you please add South Levantine Arabic (ajp)? Thanks in advance! --Fenakhay (talk) 14:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Could you please also add other Arabic varieties? Here's the list:
  • Algerian Saharan Arabic
  • abh Tajiki Arabic
  • abv Baharna Arabic
  • acm Mesopotamian Arabic
  • acq Ta'izzi-Adeni Arabic
  • acw Hijazi Arabic
  • acx Omani Arabic
  • acy Cypriot Arabic
  • adf Dhofari Arabic
  • aeb Tunisian Arabic
  • aec Saidi Arabic
  • afb Gulf Arabic
  • ajp South Levantine Arabic
  • apc North Levantine Arabic
  • apd Sudanese Arabic
  • arb Standard Arabic
  • arq Algerian Arabic
  • ars Najdi Arabic
  • ary Moroccan Arabic
  • arz Egyptian Arabic
  • auz Uzbeki Arabic
  • avl Eastern Egyptian Bedawi Arabic
  • ayh Hadrami Arabic
  • ayl Libyan Arabic
  • ayn Sanaani Arabic
  • ayp North Mesopotamian Arabic
  • bbz Babalia Creole Arabic Deprecated
  • pga Sudanese Creole Arabic
  • shu Chadian Arabic
  • ssh Shihhi Arabic
A455bcd9 (talk) 16:19, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
@Fenakhay & A455bcd9 I imported all the Arabic varieties you hve listed above. Pamputt (talk) 17:21, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
@Pamputt Merci beaucoup ! A455bcd9 (talk) 07:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

HI

Bro could you import my translation in Meetei language. I wrongly translated in British English. Awangba Mangang (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@Awangba Mangang Okay thank you for letting me know, I'll try to correct this. While I do this, would you like to create a list in your own language, and then maybe to record it? 🙂 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 12:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Check-green.svg DoneWikiLucas (🖋️) 12:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

J'ai besoin de ton avis

Salut Lucas !

Nous avons déjà parlé dans ce projet. J'ai besoin de ton avis. Lequel des administrateurs du projet fr.wiktoionary a du sens d'écrire à, afin qu'ils prêtent attention au problème suivant: (🗨️ translate) Le RfC récemment ouvert, qui soulève à nouveau des questions sur le droit d'auteur, décrit une situation qui peut être directement considérée comme (🗨️ translate)

Section RfC décrivant le "cas Shakespeare" (🗨️ translate) - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/I_need_to_solve_the_problem_that_I_consider_important_in_the_eo.wiktionary.org_project#Shakespeare-1

Je crois personnellement que je suis obligé d'informer quelqu'un de l'administration de fr.wiktoionaryvotre sous-projet à propos d'un tel événement. Et il serait également utile qu'une personne expérimentée en droit d'auteur se prononce sur fr.wiktoionary projet. Cette question s'applique à tous les sous-projets de Wiktionnaire, quelle que soit la langue. Nous sommes tous connectés à la fois par un projet commun et des liens intersites (InterWiki). (🗨️ translate)

Ou vous allez vous-même transmettre mes informations. (🗨️ translate)

Заранее благодарю. (🗨️ translate) Va (🖋️) 08:36, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Bonjour (🗨️ translate)@Vami . Merci pour ton message, mais je ne suis pas administrateur sur le Wiktionary francophone (🗨️ translate). J'ai parlé avec quelques administrateurs, qui sont informés du problème, mais tu peux poster un message sur la Wikidémie si tu souhaites commencer une discussion sur le Wiktionary francophone. (🗨️ translate) Wikidémie.
Cordialement (🗨️ translate) — WikiLucas (🖋️) 12:06, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Bonjour, @WikiLucas00 ! Bon, je ne suis pas prêt à poser un problème pour une discussion générale en français - j'utilise un traducteur automatique. (🗨️ translate)
Mais dans la communication personnelle, ce n'est pas si critique. Pouvez-vous me présenter les personnes avec qui vous avez communiqué ? Il est seulement nécessaire d'exprimer un avis sur plusieurs questions au sein du RFC, auxquelles j'ai donné un lien. (🗨️ translate) Va (🖋️) 18:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Referent user

See LinguaLibre:Roles#Organizing_events.

Hello Lucas, I cited Adélaïde, Emma and yourself as reference users for contributors with experience on institutional event building (Contribuling). It implies that other users may contact us for light guidance, feedback on your personal experience in this matter, where support can be found, etc. Is that ok for you ? Best regards, Yug (talk) 10:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

{Autopatrolled}

Hello Lucas, I noticed this Autopatrolled template used on User talk:Azerbaijani audiorecordings, nice. Do you have an idea of the overall situation around ratelimit in past months ? Are you alone to handle it ? Is there a solid monitoring and user support for this aspect ? Does this issue needs care ? I need to catch up. ​Yug (talk) 09:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

(As of now, what I do is to open the Recent changes (non-audio), search for "remote", then if I see an user with upload between 380~430 (and a red userpage), I go to commons:Commons:Requests_for_rights#Autopatrol and fill a request for that user. Then I message that user about it on its LL's user_talk page. Note: Messaging on Commons could be better actually... I did a full review today, reviewviewing November 14-19th. Yug (talk) 10:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Salut @Yug . C'est une bonne idée mais je préfère travailler au cas par cas pour ces demandes, parce qu'une personne faisant une session de 380 enregistrements n'a pas forcément besoin du rôle si elle ne compte pas contribuer intensivement par la suite. Aussi, dans plusieurs cas, les comptes sont créés uniquement pour contribuer à Lingua Libre. Demander le droit autopatrolled pour tous ces utilisateurs qui n'en ont pas besoin risque de nous attirer les critiques (puis potentiellement les refus) de la communauté de Commons. Je préfère cibler des utilisateurs actifs sur d'autres wikis (une preuve de sérieux pour la communauté de Commons), qui ont réalisé au moins 700 enregistrements LiLi (environ 2 sessions bridées) et qui comptent continuer à contribuer intensivement. @Pamputt tu en penses quoi ? — WikiLucas (🖋️) 00:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Je vois, merci pour ce tour. Je prends note. Yug (talk) 08:01, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Lingua Libre on blogs, social media, etc.

It is extremely necessary to promote Lingua Libre on blogs and social media to increase the number of contributors.

An efficient way would be to ask bloggers of the Linux / FOSS community to write reviews about Lingua Libre to create awareness about the Project.

For example, the website "It's FOSS" has a huge number of readers. If they publish an article about Lingua Libre it would benefit the project providing feedback and also attracting new users. Of course, the reviews should be unbiased and voluntary (non paid). I just wrote to "It's FOSS" asking them to review LinguaLibre. Could you please help and also contact them ? Marreromarco (talk) 17:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Marreromarco & WikiLucas00 Absolutely. We currently lack human resources in those fields (outreach, communication), that's just this. Generally speaking, I'am writing down a LinguaLibre:Roles page to define useful roles for LinguaLibre, so we can call for new contributors to jump in, they take on roles according to their skills and interests, and roll forward. We start to have small task forces for:
  • coding bots (Poslovitch, Olaf, Pamputt, myself?)
  • maintenance & inward community (Pamputt, WikiLucas, myself)
  • workshops (WikiLucas, Lyokoï, Eavq)
  • recording per language...
But we would benefit a LOT from other small teams (1~3), most notably leading on outreach and communication, yes. Marreromarco, would you like to expand LinguaLibre:Roles#Outreach_for_awareness with your ideas ? It could prove useful to first gather those ideas there, and eventually, based on it, to lead a weekend online "hackathon" on outreach & communication. Yug (talk) 08:09, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

On site Workshop

Hello WikiLucas, as you know I gather typical workshop formats and contributor roles on two wikipages. I need your help to write LinguaLibre:Workshops#On site workshop. My experience is rather in presentations or unformal demos. Your and Eavq's experience at INALCO presents an interesting, in-institution format worth reporting briefly, in a positive light, so it init similar projects elsewhere. I can write a draft but since I wasn't there It will then need a deep review afterward. Would you like to help write this section ? Which approach do you prefer ? Yug (talk) 11:04, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Re: Suffixes

Thanks for letting me know. I will take a look. Olaf (talk) 17:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Problème enregistrement en finnois

Salut,

Pendant le week-end, je continue de faire des requêtes SPARQL autour de LinguaLibre (avec l'aide de @Nikki ) et là vois qu'il y a 1111 enregistrements en finnois que tu as fait et qui sont du français (j'ai regardé côté Commons, j'ai l'impression que la plupart des fichiers ont été supprimés mais dans le doute je te le signale, il faudrait au moins supprimer les fichiers).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

@VIGNERON , tu peux donner la requête permettant de trouver ces enregistrements ? Je peux essayer de me remotiver pour finir mon bot de maintenance pour ce genre de cas. Pamputt (talk) 08:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
@Pamputt ooups oui évidemment, là voilà :
PREFIX ll: <https://lingualibre.org/entity/> 
PREFIX llt: <https://lingualibre.org/prop/direct/>

select * {
  ?e llt:P4 ll:Q33; #langue = finnois
     llt:P7 ?transcription; 
     llt:P5 ll:Q102123. #locuteur = WikiLucas00
} order by ?transcription
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Salut @VIGNERON et merci pour le ping. En effet, j'avais fait environ 1111 enregistrements dans la mauvaise langue, que j'avais par la suite enregistrés en français (et les fichiers ne pouvant donc pas être renommés, je les avais tous faits supprimer il me semble). En revanche, c'est vrai que les éléments Lingua Libre correspondant n'avaient pas été supprimés. Bien à toi — WikiLucas (🖋️) 13:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Re: French list

I'm sorry, the tool server of the Polish Wikimedia chapter, which hosts my bot, is currently in maintenance mode, and for a moment I'm starting the bot manually from home, and the frequency is about one day. Sorry for the inconvenience, it should be fixed soon. Olaf (talk) 21:01, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Olaf no worries, I was just wondering if you were aware of it. There is no rush, let's wait for the server to be fixed 🙂 All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 13:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


Add a New Language

Hi WikiLucas00, nice to meet you, I would like to know if it´s possible to add a new language, in this case I would like to add Spanish language. In case that its possible I would like to know how to do it. Thank you!!!MAT.MHACCV (MAT.MHACCV)

Ola MAT.MHACCV, Spanish is already here. So you should be able to record word in Spanish already. Pamputt (talk) 11:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Request- Add new Language for a Indian Script

Brahmi is a Indian Ancient script used Northern India to Southern India. My kindly request to you, please add Brahmi in lingua libre. I think script language is allowed?.

Wikidata :Brahmi (Q185083) Thank You --Sriveenkat (talk) 10:34, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Sriveenkat and welcome to Lingua Libre. According to wikidata and wikipedia, Brahmi is a script, i.e. a way of writing some languages. We accept all sort of scripts and alphabets on Lingua Libre as long as they are compatible with Unicode. You should feel free to use Brahmi script to record words in a language, as long as it is effectively a script used by some speakers of this language. What language would you like to record? It seems that Brahmi script is not only used in one specific language. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have other questions or problems. All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 21:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
I like to record in Tamil brahmi. What I do to record in Tamil brahmi? I think record in Tamil language in Record Wizard Iam correct please clarify Thank you--Sriveenkat (talk) 04:11, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
@Sriveenkat Tamil is already available in Lingua Libre, so you can choose Tamil in the record wizard, and type words in Tamil using Brahmi script in the record wizard. Keep it mind that they will be stored on Wikimedia Commons with the word in their filename (so Tamil people who can't read Brahmi might not be able to find them easily). I really don't know much about this language and this script, so you will have to make the choice yourself between Brahmi script and w:Tamil script, depending on your goals with your recordings. Maybe you should know that you can add information between parentheses in the record wizard, which means you could also add words like this (without the quotes):
"word-in-Brahmi-script (word-in-Tamil-script)"
or this "word-in-Tamil-script (word-in-Brahmi-script)".
I hope it helped, please keep me posted on what you decided 🙂 — WikiLucas (🖋️) 07:04, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank You, I will choose Tamil in Record Wizard and record in Tamil Brahmi. I type in List of words to record like "brahmi(tamil)" "𑀅 (அ)" But Brahmi Script used for most indian languages Example: See this 𑀆 is a alphabet I can't choose tamil, hindi and any other languages in record wizard. Some brahmi pronunciations same for all languages. So I think better to create separate script. Thanks for your kind support thank you.--Sriveenkat (talk) 07:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Iam Sorry you said correct. Dont Create Seprate Script for Brahmi. We can create separate languages separate audio files. Like: Tamil Brahmi- 𑀅 (அ)--Sriveenkat (talk) 08:20, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
I tried to Record in tamil brahmi cannot upload to Commons What to do? I don't know how to solve I think Tamil only support tamil unicode block? 🤔. I don't know please help I wait for reply thank you--Sriveenkat (talk) 08:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
About the Wikimedia Commons upload issue, could you try to record a word in Tamil (with Tamil script) and upload it. I am pretty sure this upload issue is not related to the script that you use. Maybe Hugo en résidence (cc Yug) have an idea about this Commons issue. Pamputt (talk) 07:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi,@Pamputt I recorded in tamil with tamil script is properly uploaded to Wikimedia Commons See this Uploaded file using Tamil script. But I record in tamil using brahmi script is not upload in commons. Thanks Sriveenkat (talk) 08:41, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Sriveenkat, happy to help if I can. Were you previously able to upload images files named with that Brahmi script to Wikimedia commons ? Such as {your character}.png ?
Pamputt, could it be phab:T297351 again ? Yug (talk) 20:46, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi,@Yug I tried today to a upload image using brahmi characters Filename "Tamil brahmi 𑁱.png" unable to Upload in Wikimedia Commons. Error:Please choose a different, descriptive title (more info). Thanks for your help. Sriveenkat (talk) 04:31, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello Sriveenkat, thank you for your tests. So it's indeed a lesser known issue on commons. Pamputt added your usecase (Brahmi script) to phab:T297351. It's all we can do, up to Commons developers to change the settings. Hugo en résidence (talk) 10:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Hugo en résidence Thank you! Sriveenkat (🎤) (talk) 10:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Duplicata

Hello USer:WikiLucas00. (1) It seems a duplicate language appeared : Mirandese (Q217) and (Q921606), it may need to merge. See Help:SPARQL_for_maintenance#.E2.9C.85_Languages_.E2.86.92_duplicata_by_Wikidata_ID. (2) Ideally but it can be done in a later time, we need to check if any user and any audio used this Qid. There is some SPARQL queries on that same help page for that. Yug (talk) 08:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

I found the way : Special:MergeItems. We are good. I monitor this 3rd/4th splitted language. Yug (talk) 08:34, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello @Yug , thanks for the merge. I found the date when the duplicate was created, and it turns out it was because we did not find the existing one! see https://lingualibre.org/wiki/LinguaLibre:Events/2023_Wikimedia_Hackathon#Questions. Maybe we have other similar cases? All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 10:22, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
The SPARQL_for_maintenance has a query which lists all language item with similar wikidata value. We have to monitor this query's results. Right now, thank to my merge, no language are duplications. Only some recordings (~600, divided into 6+ groups) have some corrupted data.
Overall, in the past week, to ensure we had correct statistics for recordings and languages, I coded a bunch of SPARQL queries expanding Help:SPARQL_for_maintenance to visualize all data corruptions on recordings, speakers and languages. We can now see those. Next stept is to fix those using a bot. But tbh I won't be active this year on that side since my weekends are all taken by an IRL project. I still can do small 1~2hours pushes tho.Yug (talk) 09:21, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Map

See LinguaLibre_talk:Stats/Speakers#Map_query. Yug (talk) 09:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Dysfonctionnements

Bonjour WikiLucas00. J'enregistre des fichiers, et tout se passe très bien jusqu'à aujourd'hui, où leur téléversement ne fonctionne pas, je relance mais ça ne fonctionne pas, et je ne comprends pas d'où peut venir le problème. J'ai aussi remarqué que Lingua Libre Bot est inactif depuis le 26 novembre, date approximative à laquelle également les statistiques ont cessé d'être mises à jour. Cordialement, Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Bonjour @Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick et merci d'avoir signalé ce problème. J'ai prévenu sur Discord @Michael Barbereau WMFr , que je notifie ici aussi par principe. J'espère que ce n'est pas trop grave, il me semble que c'est un problème de BlazeGraph qu'on a déjà eu. À bientôt — WikiLucas (🖋️) 18:34, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Bonjour Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick.
En terme de code le studio d'enregistrements et ses uploads, les statistiques, et le bots sont 3 aspects distincts, je les traiterai donc tour à tour:
  1. Check-green.svg Coté studio, nous observons que les enregistrements incluant vos contributions avancent normalement.
  2. OOjs UI icon play-ltr-progressive.svg Pour les statistiques, c'est ce sont des requêtes SPARQLs sur Lingualibre. Lingualibre grossis vite, à un moment les requêtes pourraient crasher. Les requêtes SPARQL de plus de 60s sont à risque. Pourriez vous être plus précis sur la page statistique qui ne progresse plus ?
  3. OOjs UI icon play-ltr-progressive.svg Pour meta:User:Lingua Libre Bot, j'observe également ici la fin des contributions le 26 Novembre. WikiLucas à eu le bon réflexe en contactant Michael.
Point interessant, le robot faisant également des requêtes sur SPARQL, les point 2 et 3 sont peut être liés. Yug (talk) 16:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Bonjour.
  1. Les téléversements ne fonctionnaient pas ce vendredi premier décembre, mais il ont refonctionné à partir d'hier.
  2. C'est cette page.
  3. En effet, l'activité du robot a cessé le 26 novembre.
Merci. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 22:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Merci pour l'oeil de Lynx, je remarque à présent que LinguaLibre:Stats est à 1,099,697 enregistrements depuis environ une semaine. Poslovitch a confirmé sur Discord que le Blazegraphs, càd le clone des données nous permettant de faire les requêtes statistique et de répondre à meta:User:Lingua Libre Bot, est à terre. Ça nous arrive occasionellement, environ une fois par an. Cela n'affecte pas les opérations d'enregistrement. La personne compétente est prévenue. Yug (talk) 14:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

New language request, the rest of the Ugric languages

Hi! Nice to meet you!

I would like to ask that, Khanty and Mansi should be added as languages. Sadly the internet lacks native speakers, maybe this will draw in some with luck. I am not a native speaker of either of these languages, though I am heavily learning Mansis Northern dialect. The ISO639-3 code for Mansi is mns and for Khanty is kca. --Ewithu (talk) 20:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Ewithu and thank you for your message. It would indeed be nice to add those languages, unfortunately the tool that we use to import them from Wikidata seems broken, as I just tried. Let me warn @Poslovitch, Yug, & Pamputt , to check if they are aware of this.
All the best — WikiLucas (🖋️) 01:14, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Been so for 6 months or so, I wasn't able to fix it quickly but it should be in the MediaWiki:Gadget-LinguaImporter.js, which you can find in the Template:Technicals shown below.
I created recent languages such as Occitan whistled by hands. Yug (talk) 10:54, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Lingua Libre technical helps
Template {{Speakers category}} • {{Recommended lists}} • {{To iso 639-2}} • {{To iso 639-3}} • {{Userbox-records}} • {{Bot steps}}
Audio files How to create a frequency list?Convert files formatsDenoise files with SoXRename and mass rename
Bots Help:BotsLinguaLibre:BotHelp:Log in to Lingua Libre with PywikibotLingua Libre Bot (gh) • OlafbotPamputtBotDragons Bot (gh)
MediaWiki MediaWiki: Help:Documentation opérationelle MediawikiHelp:Database structureHelp:CSSHelp:RenameHelp:OAuthLinguaLibre:User rights (rate limit) • Module:Lingua Libre record & {{Lingua Libre record}}JS scripts: MediaWiki:Common.jsLastAudios.jsSoundLibrary.jsItemsSugar.jsLexemeQueriesGenerator.js (pad) • Sparql2data.js (pad) • LanguagesGallery.js (pad) • Gadgets: Gadget-LinguaImporter.jsGadget-Demo.jsGadget-RecentNonAudio.js
Queries Help:APIsHelp:SPARQLSPARQL (intermediate) (stub) • SPARQL for lexemes (stub) • SPARQL for maintenanceLingualibre:Wikidata (stub) • Help:SPARQL (HAL)
Reuses Help:Download datasetsHelp:Embed audio in HTML
Unstable & tests Help:SPARQL/test
Categories Category:Technical reports